Lockdown?

[maggiebee]

There is a lot of speculation about if and when lockdown will be eased. Having read this, I for one would be happy to wait a while longer.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1278489/Spain-coronavirus-latest-state-of-emergency-pedro-sanchez

[fiction-factory]

Will it still be okay though 10CS if we relax and Covid spikes again? Even if the NHS is overwhelmed with Covid cases and you or someone you care about can't get a doctor/bed to deal with a heart attack or cancer and people are afraid to go back to work because workmates are dying?

[Peter Pedant]

yeah it is the 14 d lag
that does everyones head in

[10ClarionSt]

What you describe ff, is in your imagination which stems from the gubbins that came from the guy who was sacked t'other day. If this is a war, as some people described it, when did anyone ever win a war by hiding away from the enemy? What if this? What if that? If my aunt had been born on Tuesday instead of Wednesday, she might have been my uncle.

[Smowball]

I’ve literally just read it’s to last till at least June...

[youngmafbog]

"Will it still be okay though 10CS if we relax and Covid spikes again?"

So what are you going to do, hide away for ever? There is no vaccine and may never be one so all we are doing is trashing the economy and inflicting untold damage on the most vulnerable poor in the country.

Far from the protecting the hallowed NHS a collapsed economy will see the end of it as we know it to day as there will be nothing to pay for it with.

It's a difficult call but the reality is this is not the big killer it was predicted to be by the now disgraces Professor. Who also has got it wrong may times before. The killer will be the poverty together with an increase in suicides and other similar conditions.

If someone wants to stay at home they should be able to but there is no need to make everyone do so. The NHS has the capacity, indeed they are mothballing the Nightingale hospitals as we speak.

We should not give up our freedom so easily.

[youngmafbog]

Bye Bye Tories me thinks.

[fiction-factory]

No point in me trying to have a sensible discussion with you, 10CS.

[fiction-factory]

>Bye Bye Tories me thinks
The real risk to the Tories is they loosen lockdown, Covid picks up, lots more die, lockdown has to be reintroduced- and then all the opposition parties will say "told you it was too early- you put rich businessmen before life", and then Tories get voted out.

[youngmafbog]

Nothing wrong, or daft, about what 10c has written.

[fiction-factory]

//What you describe ff, is in your imagination which stems from the gubbins that came from the guy who was sacked t'other day. If this is a war, as some people described it, when did anyone ever win a war by hiding away from the enemy? What if this? What if that? If my aunt had been born on Tuesday instead of Wednesday, she might have been my uncle.

No, read it again, but still makes no sense, YMB

[Zacs-Master]

Some enemies you can attack, some you have to take a different approach. Or maybe YMB thinks we can bomb CV out of existence? Bit like trump did with tornadoes, I think it was.

[fcc]

It does not matter how long the lockdown goes on for,the virus will
still be there. unfortunately jobs and some business will not
survive the lockdown.

[woofgang]

Dead people don’t work and don’t spend.

[naomi24]

People talk as if everyone is in lock down but in fact thousands, from front line medical staff to shop workers to dustmen to postmen to delivery people to men who repair our electrics, our phone lines, and our water pipes, have continued to work throughout this. Whilst it’s obviously important for the vulnerable to continue to take great care, the country has to give a kick start to the economy by getting as many people as possible back to work. This virus isn’t going to go away and the country can’t remain in this situation indefinitely. Until a vaccine is available we have to learn to live with it.

[Spicerack]

No, but they vote Labour and Democrat.

[Spicerack]

That^ to woofgang.

[tomus42]

The lockdown situation will start to be eased off because it has to. There's obviously a limit on the amount of time it can continue. At some point it has to be paid for, and that can't happen if no-one is working.

[New Judge]

This makes an interesting read:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8302055/Bail-billions-anaesthetise-reality-economy-tatters.html

Prof Lee majors on the delusional effect the lockdown and the government's furlough scheme is having on the mindset of the population. They seem to have been lured into a belief that they will stay at home for a few more weeks (or months), the virus will have by then gone away and they will return to work as if nothing has happened. They are wrong, utterly wrong on both counts, and the longer the lockdown persists the more wrong they will be.

The government's continued lockdown strategy will simply delay the inevitable, and that inevitable will be so much worse the longer the lockdown goes on. Prof Lee supports my contention that it should be removed as soon as possible. Yes, the virus will spread again but whenever the lockdown is lifted it will spread again. Keeping people locked away is simply inflicting more and more harm on the economy until eventually the country will have no resources to deal with the virus or any other illness.

[dannyk13]

NJ, so you are advocating that the death of God knows how many people is a justified outcome of lifting lock down?

[fiction-factory]

danny- I agree with you. I think people who want to put the economy before lives keep forgetting that the strategy has been, is and must be to ensure that the spread is kept to a level which ensures the NHS can cope. If NHS can't cope then not only will loads more die of Covid but the NHS won't be able to give cancer treatment, heart surgery etc to those that need it so more will die early.
Yes we will all die eventually but I'd rather stay alive and hope for a vaccine or leave it 20 years than rush to get it over and done with.