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webbo3 | 13:07 Thu 30th Apr 2020 | News
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She needed to keep herself in the public eye, so shes now an expert in virology.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/29/greta-thunberg-launches-campaign-fight-coronavirus/

\\Thunberg said in a statement that “like the climate crisis, the coronavirus pandemic is a child-rights crisis” that will affect youngsters now and in the long-term, especially the most vulnerable.//

Childs rights ?, its affecting everyone.

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//She's not wrong about climate change,...// She's wrong insofar as her criticism should be directed towards those who are exacerbating the problem to the greatest degree. That is China (30% of global emissions) the USA (14%) and India (7%). That's half of all global emissions. The UK is responsible for just over 1%. It could reduce its share to nothing...
16:49 Thu 30th Apr 2020
It was quite amusing to read the resident ah's response to Mozz71's post at 2240. Such dexterity at tap-dancing, twerking, and boogalooing I haven't seen in a while.
To be honest that does surprise me.
^ that to Spicerack.
There's no minimum age to wonder about the future -- and, in some cases, to be horrified at the prospect.
And there's no maximum age as to wonder what in darnation are those young whipper-snappers up to now?:)
//Incidentally, Malala is in a different league entirely. No comparison can, or should, be made.//

Absolutely agree Naomi. Malala is a true heroine, coming from a near death experience to become a remarkably erudite and inspirational young woman. Greta, as much as I admire her cause, can only dream of become as important as Malala.
// And there's no maximum age as to wonder what in darnation are those young whipper-snappers up to now?:) //

True, but I reckon there's a maximum age up to which one can mock an autistic child without it looking a bit sad and creepy.
I for one am glad that andy has been so forthright about just how patronising he can be.
//True, but I reckon there's a maximum age up to which one can mock an autistic child without it looking a bit sad and creepy.//

I'd suggest it's about the same age when you're too big to get a smacked ass for such an action.
Tomus, tomus, tomus, did you not notice the smiley thingy at the end of my post?
// I'd suggest it's about the same age when you're too big to get a smacked ass for such an action. //

Exactly. Four year olds should know better, let alone grown adults.
Take this, for example: // I still retain my original position - that Ms Thunberg is simply not old enough to have grasped the complexities of her subject ... //

Which would have a lot more force if Andy had even half the understanding Thunberg does of the threat that Anthropogenic Climate Change poses. Maybe instead of relying on your age to provide some claim to understanding, actually go out and learn something about it for a change.

But, seriously. Those who criticise Thunberg ought, really, to ask themselves several questions. Not least among which is why someone who is trying to raise a serious issue deserves so much bile. Clearly the answer is that they don't see it so seriously. So:

-- Is Climate Change a threat?
-- Can we do something about it, at least the parts that are in our control?
-- Are we doing enough? Collectively, as a species.
-- Should we try to move faster to mitigate the threat?

Given that the answers are yes, yes, no, and yes, and since, in the end, that is Thunberg's message, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that criticising her is deliberate, designed to deflect from the more serious issue.
//Tomus, tomus, tomus, did you not notice the smiley thingy at the end of my post? //

No, but I wasn't really addressing my comment at you Sanmac, just any sad and creepy looking people that might be looking in.
Not really as a lot here have already confessed that the message is irrelevant. Their distain for the messenger makes the message immaterial to them. They're too busy shooting the messenger to have any concern for what her message might have been.
//Not least among which is why someone who is trying to raise a serious issue deserves so much bile. Clearly the answer is that they don't see it so seriously.//

You give people too much credit Jim. It's actually very little to do with climate change or how serious an issue they consider it, or how accurate or not her views may be. It is just that they don't like the person. All this stuff about not liking to see a vulnerable young woman being manipulated is transparently disingenuous guff.
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Take this, for example: // I still retain my original position - that Ms Thunberg is simply not old enough to have grasped the complexities of her subject ... //

Which would have a lot more force if Andy had even half the understanding Thunberg does of the threat that Anthropogenic Climate Change poses.





What do you know about Greta's understanding of Anthropogenic Climate Change, Jim?

I would
A. Hazard a guess that you know nothing of her understanding of Anthropogenic Climate Change

B. I would hazard a guess that Greta has little understanding of Anthropogenic Climate Change
To be fair roy I bet 'very little' is still more than twice Andy's knowledge of it.
Tomus, //All this stuff about not liking to see a vulnerable young woman being manipulated is transparently disingenuous guff.//

If you want an example of the disingenuous look no further than this from Jim.

//the only conclusion that can be drawn is that criticising her is deliberate, designed to deflect from the more serious issue.//

I can’t speak for others but my reasons for rejecting this contrived crusade are as given. Disingenuous I am not.

I see no one has addressed the main body of my post at 23:05 Sat.
In response to 23:05. Probably not, but who knpws? Sometimes an individual can do something that captures the imagination of the public (Capt Tom Moore for example), and things take off, but I concede that you are probably correct, even if the point seems somewhat irrelevant.
That a troubled young girl, prone to hysteria, is being manipulated and used as a front-runner to engender support for a cause isn’t irrelevant. It’s actually rather shameful.

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