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BJ wants emergency measures to stop early release of Terrorists ( just as he said he would)
BJ wants emergency measures to stop early release of Terrorists ( just as he said he would)
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TTT: I was thinking earlier about the discussions of sanctions "against the Muslim community" -- closing mosques, etc, or denying access to Imams (not explicitly mentioned here but Khandro and others have said as much in the past).
On the other hand, if prisoners are being radicalised in jails then it's vital to have more oversight about what's going on and what is being said to them.
On the other hand, if prisoners are being radicalised in jails then it's vital to have more oversight about what's going on and what is being said to them.
Eddie
Two Terrorist prisoners were released early
Two prisoners were afforded a second chance
Same two prisoners went on to kill and maim.
Enough is enough. These miserable apologies for mankind are unworthy of trust or remission.
Most of them were well and truly radicalised long before they saw the inside of a prison cell as was the case of the latest murderous 'martyr'.
Two Terrorist prisoners were released early
Two prisoners were afforded a second chance
Same two prisoners went on to kill and maim.
Enough is enough. These miserable apologies for mankind are unworthy of trust or remission.
Most of them were well and truly radicalised long before they saw the inside of a prison cell as was the case of the latest murderous 'martyr'.
Muslims in prison have the right to be visited by an Imam; what constitutes an Imam is open to discussion, some of those visiting prisoners are from the extremist Wahhabi sect, others can be of the status of lay preachers, either way they can foment extremism inside the prison system.
The reason these ex-prisoners carry out these acts is not to change the world order, but to cleanse their previous personal sins in the eyes of Allah & go to paradise rather than hell, - the Muslim view of hell is extremely frightening, & is for eternity! These are personal rather than political acts. It's not a matter of re-educating prisoners, we have to re-educate & if necessary make sanctions against the culture, or pay the price.
The reason these ex-prisoners carry out these acts is not to change the world order, but to cleanse their previous personal sins in the eyes of Allah & go to paradise rather than hell, - the Muslim view of hell is extremely frightening, & is for eternity! These are personal rather than political acts. It's not a matter of re-educating prisoners, we have to re-educate & if necessary make sanctions against the culture, or pay the price.
OG // Does anyone understand why anyone is released early ? //
No. Like a lot of things in the legal system, it doesn't seem to make much sense. I've not seen a reasonable explanation for it yet.
The police didn't understand it either, which is why they this bloke under surveillance. They were obviously pretty sure he'd attempt something first chance he got, and they were right.
No. Like a lot of things in the legal system, it doesn't seem to make much sense. I've not seen a reasonable explanation for it yet.
The police didn't understand it either, which is why they this bloke under surveillance. They were obviously pretty sure he'd attempt something first chance he got, and they were right.
First we need to remove the HRA from our books and replace with a version of our own.
Then appeal, or amend, the current laws on early release. The same for laws on terroist activites.
Get those builders in China who knocked up that hospital in 10 days over to build us a few jails somewhere remote. Single cells, no imams, no special food and some hard labour. Same for all prisoners too. And certainly no early release - for all prisoners. Ad time on for bad behaviour instead.
Then appeal, or amend, the current laws on early release. The same for laws on terroist activites.
Get those builders in China who knocked up that hospital in 10 days over to build us a few jails somewhere remote. Single cells, no imams, no special food and some hard labour. Same for all prisoners too. And certainly no early release - for all prisoners. Ad time on for bad behaviour instead.
//Does anyone understand why anyone is released early ?//
//Is it written in law that a prisoner automatically gets 50% off or is it just an "assumed right"?//
It’s written in law.
The provision for automatic release at the half way point for all prisoners serving determinate sentences was introduced with the 2003 Criminal Justice Act. As part of that Act, judges also have the power to extend the time served to two-thirds of the sentence if::
• The criminal is sentenced to at least four years in prison or has a previous conviction for a serious offence
• A sentence of imprisonment for life is not available or justified
• The judge thinks they pose a significant risk to the public.
These offenders are either entitled to be released two thirds of the way through their sentence, or can apply for parole at that point.
As I understand it, what the government is thinking of doing is to extend that provision to include more offences than the existing list of “serious offences”, to reduce the seven year minimum sentence requirement and to make the requirement to serve two-thirds of the sentence automatic instead of at the judge’s discretion.
They may succeed in doing that. What I think they will not succeed in doing is to have the new measure applied retrospectively. There is a basic tenet in UK law that the sentence passed down should be that which was available at the time the offence was committed. To try to enact this new measure retrospectively would be in breach of that principle as those sentenced had an expectation (and indeed a right under the law) to be released at the half way point when they were sentenced.
//Is it written in law that a prisoner automatically gets 50% off or is it just an "assumed right"?//
It’s written in law.
The provision for automatic release at the half way point for all prisoners serving determinate sentences was introduced with the 2003 Criminal Justice Act. As part of that Act, judges also have the power to extend the time served to two-thirds of the sentence if::
• The criminal is sentenced to at least four years in prison or has a previous conviction for a serious offence
• A sentence of imprisonment for life is not available or justified
• The judge thinks they pose a significant risk to the public.
These offenders are either entitled to be released two thirds of the way through their sentence, or can apply for parole at that point.
As I understand it, what the government is thinking of doing is to extend that provision to include more offences than the existing list of “serious offences”, to reduce the seven year minimum sentence requirement and to make the requirement to serve two-thirds of the sentence automatic instead of at the judge’s discretion.
They may succeed in doing that. What I think they will not succeed in doing is to have the new measure applied retrospectively. There is a basic tenet in UK law that the sentence passed down should be that which was available at the time the offence was committed. To try to enact this new measure retrospectively would be in breach of that principle as those sentenced had an expectation (and indeed a right under the law) to be released at the half way point when they were sentenced.
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