Could This Be The New Man?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-leadership-sir-keir-starmer-takes-lead-in-race-to-replace-corbyn-poll-11899154
I hope not he's one of the few in Labour that is not completely clueless.

[mushroom25]

interesting article from the Grauniad….
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/01/questions-labour-win-party-defeat

[Khandro]

One of the best people who could have led the party, has tragically lost her seat; Caroline Flint, so unfair, but I hope she will somehow return.

[ToraToraTora]

great article mush and it's in the grauniad so our resident Corbynistas may well actually read and digest it.

[hellywelly4]

I always think he has a look of Derek Hatton about him. Is it the cheekbones?

[naomi24]

If he is their new man, I don't believe he will bring the breath of fresh air or the change of direction the party so desperately needs.

He wants a 'radical' Labour government and insists that //Labour could win the next general election; but only if it sticks to its values. //

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/17/keir-starmer-labour-leadership-pitch-radical-government

No change there then. None of them seem capable of grasping the fact that so few want what they are offering.

[gulliver1]

13.14 ,Danny, it is the season of the Pantomime "Oh Yes he Will . Happy new year to you and all the Cons, on the A/B News section .

[Theland]

Corbyn, "The Long Kiss Goodnight."

[sevenOP]

T3 --- "whilst I agree that you do need a competent opposition to keep the government honest...."

Do you mean 'accountable" and "transparent" ?

[TonyV]

hope not, only one people might be tempted to vote for.

[sevenOP]

T3 --- "/sevenOP etc listen to saintpeter, millions like him deserted your beloved Labour party"

How is it my (beloved!!!) Labour party???

Mass branding, Manichaean mindSET again T3 ?

[ToraToraTora]

are you not a Labour supporter then?

[10ClarionSt]

I can understand Labour people not voting Labour. That's happened before. What I don't understand is why they would vote Tory. Is it because the Tories have become Labour and adopted their policies?

[Jackdaw33]

Have the Lib Non-Dems got a new leader yet?

[dannyk13]

10ca //e Tories have become Labour and adopted their policies?//
No, it is because they preferred the Tories policies to those of the Labour Party.

[ToraToraTora]

I think they've got two JD!

[Khandro]

10c //What I don't understand is why they would vote Tory. Is it because the Tories have become Labour and adopted their policies?//

What!? The only policies Labour had were a century old, outmoded, Marxist ones. Their 'policy ' on the burning issue of the day; Brexit, was non-existent. The massive swing to the Tories was because people want, in the words of Farage, "their country back ", & the Conservatives were the only party to clearly offer it.

[sevenOP]

3T - "are you not a Labour supporter then?"

Answering a question with a question. Just can't admit you presumed, and now looking for your branding iron.

'Sir' Establishment would echo both US Houses, Lawyer Executives.

[ToraToraTora]

How is it my (beloved!!!) Labour party??? - you seem to support them
Mass branding, Manichaean mindSET again T3 ? - only labelling what I see
Are you a Labour supporter or not?

[shoota]

' 'Sir' Establishment would echo both US Houses, Lawyer Executives. '

What's that all about?

[Khandro]

"Continuity Corbyn", a treat for Tories;
https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1223380/labour-leadership-sir-keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn