How Many More Young Lives Will Be Lost Before Some Form Of Positive Action Takes Place? All We Seem To Hear Is "that No Arrests Have Been Made".

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7340455/Erdington-shooting-sees-one-man-dead-hunt-launched-gunman.html

[dannyk13]

What form of positive action do you propose AOG?

[agchristie]

//We need more cameras and we need more police here all of the time.//

A statement that could be echoed in many places...

Boris Johnson and his advisors have much on their plate where law and order is concerned.

[youngmafbog]

A quote from a resident:

"'This area is not good, there are drug dealers everywhere, selling them anywhere and in front of anyone, I'm scared of being here."

So for a start Danny how about they clear that up and stop it happening.

Secondly Priti needs to get her finger out and grow a pair fast. HArsher sentences just for possession and active stop and search in known hotspots.

Plenty more things too, but there are two bleedin obvious ones.

[Spicerack]

I worked in Erdington (British Tubes?) many years ago. Seemed like an industrial area. Can't claim to know the area well. Stayed in Handsworth.

[youngmafbog]

"Boris Johnson and his advisors have much on their plate where law and order is concerned."

They do, but let's remember it has all come from right-on liberal thinking and a useless Home secretary and PM (who is also part of the Metropolitan liberal elite).

[dannyk13]

ymb //active stop and search in known hotspots. //
Already happens as reported often in the media.

[Canary42]

///All We Seem To Hear Is "that No Arrests Have Been Made"///

Perhaps you "listen" to the wrong papers. Here's some very recent examples of culprits caught.

http://news.met.police.uk/news/two-charged-following-fatal-stabbing-377566

http://news.met.police.uk/news/man-convicted-of-killing-teenage-girlfriend-in-greenwich-377682

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49289706

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/gosport-murder-probe-brendan-rowan-davies-appears-in-court-charged-with-murder-of-kelly-anne-case-1-9022371

http://news.met.police.uk/news/fourth-man-charged-in-brent-murder-investigation-377204

[dannyk13]

ymb
https://www.thejusticegap.com/400-rise-in-use-of-section-60-stop-and-search-powers/

[anotheoldgit]

The police know who some of these gangs are, may I suggest dawn raids on their properties?

We've got to get these drug dealing killers off our streets, or better still incarcerated.

[dannyk13]

AOG //The police know who some of these gangs are, may I suggest dawn raids on their properties? //
Knowing and having enough evidence for an arrest are two vastly different things.

[youngmafbog]

"Already happens as reported often in the media."

Clearly not enough in this area though.

It's only one measure though, so why pick on that, what about the others?

[chelle7272]

Knowing who they are isn't evidence though is it?

[dannyk13]

YMB, what others? Priti Patel had already stated that she is going to be hard on crime.

[THECORBYLOON]

He was shot less than twenty-four hours ago, can you not wait for them to complete their investigation?

[anotheoldgit]

Canary42
I don't really know how one can listen to papers.

But 5 arrests eh? out of 43,500 offences in 2018.

/// Knife crime in England and Wales has soared to a record high with more than 43,500 offences in the past year. ///

[anotheoldgit]

chelle7272

/// Knowing who they are isn't evidence though is it? ///

You what???????? Would you mind putting that by us once again?

[dannyk13]

AOG, see my post at 13.08

[chelle7272]

Not sure what was so vague..... Danny said the same thing!

you said
//The police know who some of these gangs are, //

And I said knowing who they are is not evidence
Evidence is needed to //get them off the streets//

[THECORBYLOON]

"In the year ending March 2019 22,041 knife and offensive weapon offences were formally dealt with by the CJS [Criminal Justice System]" a wee bit more than five eh?

[anotheoldgit]

chelle7272

Enough to know that they are members of a drug gang, surely that as got to be illegal?

Just as being a member of a banned far-right group is.