Brexit.

[gulliver1]

The time is now for Britain to change its mind on leaving the EU, says TORY MP and former attorney General Dominic Grieve, anyone agree with him?.

[New Judge]

"I think his point is (to use an analogy), a patient in a hospital is demanding a treatment that he and a few other doctors and clinical supervisors think is wrong and may lead to otherwise unknown complications."

That would be OK except...in the main doctors and clinical supervisors know - or have a very good idea - what the likely outcome of a treatment they would not recommend will be. Those aiming to prevent the UK electorate having the treatment it chooses have absolutely no idea what the outcome of the treatment will be. So far those opposed to Brexit have proved to be spectacularly wrong with just about everything they have forecast (except that they suggested the EU would try to make our departure difficult for us - which anybody with half a brain could have forecast). Further than that they are concentrating almost solely on the economic effects our departure will (according to them) lead to. There is however far more to it than that. Even if they were correct (that in their worst case scenario we will be about 0.5% pa worse of in terms of GDP) the need to escape from a corrupt, anti-democratic, protectionist and dysfunctional Union which has the sole aim of a federal state with an enormous democratic deficit at its very heart, overrides half a percent on GDP any day.

[mikey4444]

This just shows how divided the Tories are over BREXIT, as I said on my other thread today.

We will see what Theresa does about it shall we ?

[david small]

NO,NO,AND THRICE NO...

[gulliver1]

12.36" we [ the Conservatives ]" --------Where were you Radicalized ? TOGO.

[mikey4444]

Amber Rudd hits back at Tory Brexiteers

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42935058

[devadolly]

No Way!

[emmie]

no i don't agree,

[Old_Geezer]

Only remainers who don't wish to accept the vote went against them. Nobody with the realisation that flip flopping is the way to mess up everything and be seen as not worth taking seriously. Nothing has happened to provide a reason for a charge of heart. Any nation worth the title still needs control of itself.

[tonyav]

No.

[Togo]

//12.36" we [ the Conservatives ]" --------Where were you Radicalized ? TOGO. //

Eerr Gullible. cooo eeyy. If you get someone to read your own spokesman back to you, perhaps,,,,, perhaps mind, you will see that Grieve said that. I sent it back to further confuse you. If that is possible of course.

[gulliver1]

Can I have a glass of what you are on Togo?

[jourdain2]

Of course not. It's like saying after a General Election, 'Do you want to change your minds.' All these people, Amber Rudd especially, who go on about 'a Brexit that suits everybody' have missed the point. Several General Elections have not suited me and the policies enacted as a result have actively hurt me, but I had to put up with it. Our family was impoverished when Labour won and the railways were nationalised (Grandma would not listen and had all the money in railway shares). It is called Democracy - what's so difficult for gainsayers to understand?

[whiskeryron]

I am constantly tripping over the toys thrown out of the prams of the remoaners. We had the vote PLEASE try & get used to the decision reached by the democratic majority.

[Baldric]

I think what Ron is saying, far more eloquently than I could is;

"You lost Guys, get over it!"

[Jackdaw33]

Unfortunately they won't get over it; not now, not never.

[Jackdaw33]

...and - we - got - four - more - percent - than -you,

ENGERLAND!!

(With apologies to Vindaloo).

[Zacs-Master]

3.78 actually. Make that rhyme.

[Jackdaw33]

To one significant figure it is 4!

[Baldric]

Zac is not over it yet ;o)