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Just-Jude | 15:57 Sat 07th Oct 2017 | News
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Should this teacher really be in jail? Is she a danger to society? If she had been high on drugs and stabbed her teenage lover, she would have walked free.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/woman-jailed-sex-student-pupil-teacher-relationship-a7986976.html
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It doesn't matter how precocious the lad was, she should have had more sense.
Tilly....of course she should......but we all have human failings...don't we? I know i do.
But 8 months in jail?
I think what he'll miss is entering a relationship with a girl nearer to his age......taking it slowly....learning about each other and learning together.....
He's probably been taught it all by Miss....maybe.... and I wouldn't have liked that in a boyfriend....

Maybe I'm just a daft romantic......but those days were lovely.....x
gness..... I agree....but that was then....this is now.
Maybe, Sqad....and it's that I'm a bit out of touch with "now".... but for me she was wrong....... :-(
Sqad - // Tilly....of course she should......but we all have human failings...don't we? I know i do.
But 8 months in jail? //

Yes, because that is what the law says.

And you know as well as I do that 'human failings' are not an excuse or a reason to break the law. If they are, I want all my parking and speeding fine payments back!
She probably won't actually do eight months but what will she do when she gets out? Her present life is ruined. She may have to re-invent herself.

Stupid, stupid young woman.
A-H....I never said that human failings were an excuse for breaking the law, I intimated that they were a fact of life........and if caught.....the law had measures in place to deal with them......which it did.
I just gave my opinion on the situation......a human situation.
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andy-hughes "I repeat - the economic situation of the individuals involved is not an issue in terms of guilt and punishment. It may appear to be that way - obviously to you it does, but that does not make it a fact"

The justice system is riddled with inequality, the rich always get an easy ride, everyone knows that. The dangerous junkie student got away with it because judges don't jail those of their own social status.
Sqad - //A-H....I never said that human failings were an excuse for breaking the law, I intimated that they were a fact of life........ //

You certainly inferred that the sentence was harsh - in keeping with your view that this was all a bit of a laugh, and making the boy a man, and similarly unreconstructed views to which, of course you are entitled, but you do appear to think that the sentence is unduly lengthy in terms of the offence.

If you see the offence as a lad being taught the facts of life by an experienced older woman, and good luck to him, then the offence is not really an offence at all, just happy good fortune for him.

If, as I do, you see this as abuse of a child by an adult in a position of trust and responsibility, then the sentence is entirely justified.

We must agree to differ on this one.
Just-Jude - // The justice system is riddled with inequality, the rich always get an easy ride, everyone knows that. The dangerous junkie student got away with it because judges don't jail those of their own social status. //

My belief is that the judge sentenced incorrectly, but I believe it was based on the circumstances of the case, rather than the bank balance of the defendant.
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"based on the circumstances of the case"

Yet another excuse by the judiciary, nothing to do with class then.
A-H

"If you see the offence as a lad being taught the facts of life by an experienced older woman, and good luck to him, then the offence is not really an offence at all, just happy good fortune for him. "

"If, as I do, you see this as abuse of a child by an adult in a position of trust and responsibility, then the sentence is entirely justified. "

Interesting...in your first paragraph you describe the pupil as a "lad" BUT in you second paragraph you describe the same individual as a "child."
Child/Lad.....Lad/child......emphasis your point of view.
However enough of my nit picking......I agree, we need to agree to differ in our opinions.
Lad/ child , Child /Lad At 15 it's time to get on with it, and if you can have it off with you teacher - how cool is that?
It might be perceived as cool but it's wrong.
//"based on the circumstances of the case"

Yet another excuse by the judiciary...//

I was under the impression that when it came to sentencing, "the circumstances of the case" have always been relevant. The law provides a range of sentences; the judge uses the circumstances of the case to determine what sentence within that range is most appropriate.

Calling it "an excuse by the judiciary" is pretty bizarre, really, and betrays a misunderstanding of the role of judges.
Tilly.......Khandro knows that it is illegal, i know it is illegal, we ALL know it is illegal...............but is it wrong?
Khandro - // Lad/ child , Child /Lad At 15 it's time to get on with it, and if you can have it off with you teacher - how cool is that? //

I am sure I am meant to explode in a paroxysm of outrage, but your pointless provocation is far too in-subtle to merit any response, because you are not looking to offer a view or add to the debate, merely stir and agitate.

So, no change there.
The age of consent is 18 when a teacher is involved, so it is quite way out. Personally, I think the problem is that a teacher is in a position of trust more than the actual ages.
Wrong.

1.
not correct or true; incorrect.
"that is the wrong answer"
synonyms: incorrect, mistaken, in error, erroneous, inaccurate, not accurate, inexact, not exact, imprecise, invalid, untrue, false, fallacious, wide of the mark, off target; More
2.
unjust, dishonest, or immoral.
"that was wrong of me"
synonyms: illegal, against the law, unlawful, illicit, indictable, lawless, lawbreaking, criminal, delinquent, felonious, dishonest, dishonourable, corrupt.


So yes, wrong, Sqad.

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