La Vegas Shooter Radicalized?

[Khandro]

'Las Vegas authorities now acknowledge mass murderer Stephen Paddock may have been “radicalized” before his bloody rampage Sunday at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival but they won’t say what species of radicalism the shooter may have embraced.'
So said the sheriff but wouldn't elaborate.

[Gromit]

IF this was an ISIS operation, then Trump, the NRA, and the alt right will have to accept far stricter gun control as part of anti terror measures.
If Paddock used the lax regulation of guns to build up his arsenal to cause Islamic terror, then to do nothing would be aiding and abetting furure ISIS terrorists.

[Zacs-Master]

I think we’re entering the twilight zone now.

[Jahulaye]

If it is the nra could trump be purposefully dragging his heels as a large % of red necks and gun owners voted for him? Hmmm, surely not...

[Peter Pedant]

'the police have no idea what he was planning to do with the 50 lb explosive found in his car'

oo-er mrs !

[Peter Pedant]

// I think we’re entering the twilight zone now.//

whatever made you think you were ever outside the twilight zone ? AOG up, man ! this is AB!

( hum X files music to yourself - di-do-do-do etc)

[Jahulaye]

“the police have no idea what he was planning to do with the 50 lb explosive found in his car” i missed that, where is the article as that has all the hallmarks of alqaida

[Peter Pedant]

// "a reasonable assessment of the evidence available to date suggests that perhaps this man was not radicalised by Muslims"//

Jim as a physicist - we are in a Schrodinger cat on going situation arent we?
he was or was not radicalised ( cat dead or alive)
but we havent opened the box yet....(had a definitive answer yet)

and what do YOU think he was gonna do wid de jelly ?
( explosives found in his car)

[Peter Pedant]

Jehu
tape of Beeb news at 08 00 this am
( signed version as I use it to learn BSL)

and here ( unsigned)
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/explosive-possessed-by-stephen-paddock-may-have-been-used-in-nyc-bombing/

[naomi24]

sp at 09:38, I know - and I haven't said differently.

[anotheoldgit]

Why are some so reluctant to put the blame squarely at the door of ISIS?

It would seem that they are trying to protect their name, surely with their track record the more they are shown to be the savage killers that they are, the better?

Or could it be that the real reason for their reluctance to blame them, is because they don't want to show the 'Rop' in a bad light?

[mushroom25]

//If someone were to offer me a bet that Paddock was a radicalised Muslim terrorist, I would turn. //

for a fleeting second, I was thinking "flippin' 'eck SP" - then you qualified in the next post. Phew!

[jim360]

Or -- here's a thought, AOG -- or, everything you just said is rubbish.

I don't want to make the mistake of assuming that anyone who engages in mass murder is automatically a Muslim-inspired terrorist. It's possible to do that while also recognising that ISIS members, and those inspired by ISIS, are not so much ROP as POS.

[naomi24]

What's POS?

[sp1814]

naomi24

Pieces of ***

[jim360]

piece(s) of s***

Not one of my better efforts but it'll do.

[sp1814]

AOG

You asked:

“Why are some so reluctant to put the blame squarely at the door of ISIS?”

Because there’s no evidence that they are to blame.

[naomi24]

SP, Oh right. Thanks, but in that case I disagree with Jim who says they are not so much ROP. They are.

[Khandro]

SP you asked for the source of the claim, it apparently came fro AMAQ - the propaganda news agency for isis, it's on here;
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-10-03/there-s-no-evidence-linking-las-vegas-attack-isis-so-why-did-group-claim.

[-Talbot-]

One thing we can say for certain ... when it looks like not being an Islamist terror attack the thread will attract a different contributor.

[jim360]

As I understand it, the "P" in ROP stands for "peace", does it not?

I don't particularly see how it can be argued in any meaningful sense that killing 60 people and injuring about ten times as many again is "peaceful"...