Time To Flog Your Deisel?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41114738
Finally the manufacturers put an end to diesel silliness. They'll mostly be worthless in within a year.

[mikey4444]

This debate over Electric cars goes round and round. Who the hell wants to take 10 hours to get to Cornwall, because you have to stop every hour or so, to recharge the engine ?

[youngmafbog]

Wont happen unless fuel cells work and become widespread.

[gulliver1]

Think there was more Poisonous gas being emitted, from elsewhere,
when this was originally posted at 14.54, think it is called Bullshine.

[Islay]

My petrol car only gave me 280 miles for a tank I changed in June to a diesel and for the same size tank I get 480 miles - I will therefore hold onto my diesel as long as possible.

[EDDIE51]

Diesel / Electric hybrids are a possibility . A high efficiency diesel engine driving a generator that powers the electric motor. Sounds daft at first but the engine can be optimized to run at maximum efficiency at all times, with a battery that provides a boost when extra power is needed and charges when full power is not needed . Off road mining trucks such as the ElectraHaul use this method, it was also the basis of diesel / electric locomotives.

[Zacs-Master]

(Zacs sets a reminder for a year hence).

[-Talbot-]

The gas coming out of a Euro7 engine is cleaner than the air that goes into it.




Wow tell me more.

[DTCwordfan]

chance for you to suck your exhaust pipe, talbs, but technically true in an urban environment. Enjoy.

[Togo]

Loved my TDCI ST Mondy, 55 plate and pulled like a train. Sounded like a bag of spanners rattling when fired up on a cold morning. Purred like a lazy pussy cat after a few miles. Drove it for 70,000 miles and it never missed a beat. The drive to St Ives was almost a pleasure, massive torque and really could go from 60 to 90 in seconds. Last January "She who must be obeyed" used head instead of heart and "suggested" it was time to get rid. Petrol now.....nice .......no grunt though. I will miss it for ever. Mind you I did block off the damned EGR valve to stop the rev hunting in town, and to give me lift off at the lights. Whenever I see one now my heart leaps.

[Togo]

//Think there was more Poisonous gas being emitted, from elsewhere,
when this was originally posted at 14.54, think it is called Bullshine.//

No, that's the Bus Lane.

[youngmafbog]

My wifes petrol 1700 SLK has a lot more grunt than my diesel 2.5 Warrior. Goes about twice as far to the galon despite being a heavy onvertible.

Why wuld you want a Diesel/electric? Have you heard what the virgin xcountry sounds like?

Th only way forward for electric is to perfect the hydrogen fuel cell. Once that is done then it is game over for fossil fuels.

[EDDIE51]

TTT and anyone else, if you are interested most modern car / small van diesels are TDI , which stands for Turbocharged Direct Injection. This has only been possible since a fully computerized fuel injection system was developed , previous engines ( and some current diesel engines) were/are CRDI which stands for Common Rail Direct Injection.
The differences are explained here
http://www.differencebetween.net/business/product-services/differences-between-crdi-and-tdi/
Basically TDI means a far more 'petrol like' performance , quieter and much less 'diesel Knock' which is what I assume TTT is talking about . TTT you need to make sure the car you try is a TDI diesel as both my Zafira and mikeys cars are. You really do not know it's a diesel unless you look at the name badge , apart from the far superior fuel economy of course!
Another difference is that a CRDI engine needs a separate fuel pump which keeps the entire fuel system from pump to cylinders at very high pressure. These fuel pumps are very reliable but do need specialist maintenance. In a CDI the entire fuel pump / injection system is computer controlled and adapts to the circumstances such as air / engine temperature and humidity. There is no maintenance, if it goes wrong you just put in a new computer chip.

[EDDIE51]

Sorry mixed up the initials there , some manufacturers call the engine a CDI for Computer Direct Injection rather than TDI for Turbocharged Direct Injection. So CDI and TDI mean the same. A CDI/TDI does not rattle like a box of spanners when it starts from cold, a CRDI does !