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Just-Jude | 18:33 Sat 14th Nov 2015 | News
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Does the UK have enough security in place to prevent an ISIS attack before Christmas?
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I believe that much of what you say is true, but I completely disagree that the West (Europe and the U.S.) are fighting these wars to install democracy in the region.

The bigger picture is not democracy.

It's business interests. We simply have too much at stake, based on our dependence on oil, to let the Middle East get on with it.

The fact is - if the Middle East is destabilised, or worse - IS extends to regions which are rich in oil, our future may be compromised.

I'm sure you remember what happened when the OPEC nations decided to massively ramp up the price of a barrel of oil back in the early 70s. Imagine what would happen to the shaky global economy if that were to happen again?
Terrorists are already here and guns and bomb making supplies are readily available to those in the know!

Just a case of being vigilant and stay away from very large events!
//Cameron himself said that he wants to bring in more refugees and he is hardly left wing is he ?//
I suppose that depends where one stands Mikey.
Mickey, Togo said left wing LIBERAL. There is a world of difference between a true left winger and the right-on Islington set Togo is referring to.
Togo...I you want to think that dave is left-wing....go ahead !
The Metropolitan bourgeois bohemian trendies
They want a war, lets give them their war.

We can start by rounding up sympathizers and supporters and interning them. Then we can close down radical and small uncontrollable Mosques, we can also limit the building of such.

Then we have to hold our boses and side with Assad and the Ruskies to get shot of the invaders of Syria and Iraq before they massacre tens of thousands more out there.
mikey4444

Cameron himself said that he wants to bring in more refugees and he is hardly left wing is he ?

He also said yesterday, "'Today the British and French peoples stand together as we have so often before in our history when confronted by evil."

So he has hardly got a degree in history either.
perhaps he's thinking of the entire 20th century, aog?
AOG...I doubt very much that dave was thinking of Agincourt or Waterloo when he made his speech yesterday !
Togo, is bang on, if all these bleeding heart lefties would get their thumb out of their arises we might be able to do what will be necessary to stop these loonies. WWII could have been prevented in the early thirties if the they'd listened to Churchill, instead he was labelled a nutter, till they needed him to clear up their mess.
Now the favourite label is 'Racist' TTT!
tell you what, the froggies will be burning mosques by the end of the week.
I wish to be associated with the views of NewJudge......sensible arguement simply put...thank you
mikey4444

/// AOG...I doubt very much that dave was thinking of Agincourt or Waterloo when he made his speech
yesterday ! ///

Plus, The Hundred Years' War and more recent, 'Vichy France' All part of 'our history' mikey.
It seems a bit odd TTT to bang on about immigrants invading Europe whilst sporting a Napoleon avatar.

For years, the western world has interfered in the Middle East. Why? One word - oil.
If these people want to blow each other to bits because of their differing religious beliefs, then let them. If their laws appear to us to be somewhat archaic - so what. Their country, their laws.
It is because of this interference (and that successive governments have been petrified of being seen as racist) that we now have a country full of foreigners who expect to carry on as if they were still in there own country, but with the added benefits that coming here gives them.

Plus the ongoing threat to the safety and security of our already overloaded islands, and our armed forces having to deploy in these countries to make things safer for “us”. Well I don’t feel any safer because British Personnel have been in Afghanistan or Iraq. Do you?

Yes, oil is needed, but the majority of people in the Middle East are so backwards and uneducated, that they need the civilised world to extract it for them. Which is why most of the senior positions in the oil industry (and I’m talking about the people that drill, not the CEO’s) are held by British, Americans and Australians.
The few who are educated, are usually so wealthy, that there isn’t much chance of them putting on overalls and a hard hat!
So why can’t we just leave them to squabble amongst themselves?

And now after the horrific event in Paris on Friday it’s becoming clearer that things can only get worse.
For every Jihadi John that gets killed, there are hundreds of others more than willing to take his place, and every non muslim is at risk.

Can ISIS be defeated? I don’t know, but the fact is that over recent years Europe has become flooded with people who have no right to be here, and dissaprove of our way of life, and the blame lies with all of us - politicians who didn’t have the balls to say “no”, the bleeding heart brigade who said “aw, you poor things - come on in”, and people like myself who sat on our bums saying “this is wrong” but never got up and did anything about it.

So do we have enough security in place to prevent an ISIS attack before Christmas? I doubt it.
Death and carnage - coming to a shopping centre/theatre/tourist attraction near you!
if you had an ounce of honour talbot you'd see by my avatar that I am showing my support for the French in this dark hour. Still as you don't have a sincere bone in your body I expect it would go over your vacuous head.
I'd give you an upvote, bigbad, if I could. (4th go at posting this?)
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if you had an ounce of honour talbot you'd see by my avatar that I am showing my support for the French in this dark hour. Still as you don't have a sincere bone in your body I expect it would go over your vacuous head.



If you had an ounce of intelligence you would choose a more suitable avatar to show your support.

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