Should "tackle Out" Rambling Be Allowed?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-29800016
Apart from anything else I'd have thought walking about Scotland and England would have been a bit taters in the altogether!

[Baldric]

It took a quick visit to my Neighbour (Ex Para) to remind me of that and a few similar stories. I guess it must come under what I referred to earlier on another thread this morning;
///Since I had a Major Op. in 2009, quite a large chunk of my past has gone from my Memory, but this is apparently not unusual after a large dose of GA.///
I'm going to have to get a Notebook I think!

[youngmafbog]

//And isn't having a 'higher court' for recourse a traditional principle in this country? //

Yes "in this country"

[youngmafbog]

Walking in Scotland like that - wouldn't have thought there was much to see!

[Old_Geezer]

I think society could be a lot less het up with regards to nudity.
We are all naked under our clothes anyway.
I suspect it is a taught response rather than any natural distaste.

[youngmafbog]

Depends on who you are looking at OG.

For me it is fine, the outlook is far better than the poor s*d looking at me!

Much like the man in the cave looking at a palace.

[Zeuhl]

/Yes "in this country"/

English isn't your .strongest suit' is it ymb? :-)

[janbee]

Depends on the height of the thistles , Could be ooh, ouch aarrgh !!

[Buenchico]

While we need laws against causing physical or serious emotional harm to people (as well, of course, laws against theft. etc), it should NEVER be illegal simply to cause offence to others. (In a free society the right to cause offence is essential. I never hold back from causing offence to people through my words or actions if that's what I feel like saying or doing. Everyone else should have the same rights and adopt the same attitude).

The law on public nudity is ridiculous and needs changing NOW. (Alternatively perhaps I could persuade some of my fellow naturists to join me and walk alongside this guy. They might find it difficult to bang up several thousand of us!).

[Slapshot]

What Chris Said ^^^

[Zeuhl]

^
Agreed: UK laws on nudity are ridiculous compared with many other European countries.

A more constructive step might be extending CO areas on more of our beaches and in sections of our National Parks.

Gough seems to be aiming for an 'anywhere/everywhere' policy or have i just been misled by the administration?

[ladybirder]

Yuk I hope he carries a towel with him to use when he sits down anywhere.

[Mamyalynne]

You mean like a dry stone wall or the grass?


Seriously how it can be deemed offensive to stroll in the raw when it is the way we were born, but plaster photos of naked women with legs akimbo and fake pouts and they call it artistic.

[ToraToraTora]

You can't have people walking about naked chris, that's just common sense, the high st will be full of perverts waving their bits about. When does "offence" become "emotional harm?". It's all subjective, I dont see how you can define it. The law in this area is about right as it is.

[Sqad]

Mamy..LOL...;-)

[New Judge]

I don't disagree with this particular ruling, Zeuhl. For once the court's ruling and their reasoning seems perfectly logical.

What I do disagree with is the principle that Mr Gough should have the option to take his ridiculous argument to that court at all. He clearly contravenes UK law persistently and blatantly. The particular law with which he disagrees is accepted by the vast majority of the UK population as reasonable and there has never been any widely supported suggestion that it should be rescinded or modified. In short, it is a UK law, passed by the UK Parliament and should reign supreme until that Parliament decides otherwise.

Yes, I agree that having recourse to a higher court to challenge decisions is a sound principle. However I make the proviso that any such court should be under the jurisdiction of the UK and accountable to the UK Parliament. The introduction of Labour's Human Rights Act was supposed to remove the necessity for appellants to lobby the ECHR. The UK's Supreme Court is supposed to be the final arbiter of legal matters here.

If Mr Gough and Buenchico want to see the laws on nudity modified the place to do so is in the UK Parliament (or perhaps the Scottish/Welsh/NI Parliaments if the matter is included under devolved powers). It is not the business of foreign judges (many from nations with a less than good record on "Human Rights") to interfere in UK law and order.

[Mamyalynne]

'Perverts waving their bits around' ?

Are you getting confused with the dirty old men leaping from behind a bush in the park?

Walking,rambling, ambling whatever you call it - true certain bits may wave if you walk fast enough but what the heck.

[Peter Pedant]

sadhus wander around in the altogether
well some of them do ( 'naked sahdu')

and no one seems to care

but that is India

[shoota]

Nudity in public is legal in Spain.
It is not illegal in this country.
Where Mr Gough falls down is his repeated breaking of sanctions imposed on him rather than appealing against those sanctions in court (with his clothes on.)
There is a naked rambling association which functions with no problem by being sensible and confining their naked rambling to woodland non urban areas rather than urban high streets.
Personally I am on his side although I do not approve of the way he goes about making his point.

[ToraToraTora]

mamy, imagine it was legal to walk in public naked. Now do you think that might attract any weirdos to you local high st and they would even need a raincoat!

[shoota]

I like rambling naked.

I like being clear and concise naked as well......