I agree ludwig, and up here in the nw guess who is doing the most whinging, Liverpool, Cantona nine months for his kick on a fan, Ferdinand nine months for missing drug test both correct, this guy is very lucky, the first thing Utd did after Cantona kick was to fine him and suspend him for eight games, Liverpool just fine him that is really going to hurt a millionaire, are they going to come out at the next game with tshirts saying justice for Suarez?