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'blokeish Banter' Or Just An Islamophobic?

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anotheoldgit | 13:49 Thu 07th Feb 2013 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2274897/Tory-councillor-suspended-posting-Facebook-picture-compared-Muslim-children-burkas-bin-bags-defends-blokeish-banter.html#axzz2K1sKsXYW

ISLAMOPHOBIC????????????????

Seems they have now invented a word that can be used instead of racist, if one dares to criticise the Muslim religion.

MUSLIMOPHOBIC I've just invented another.

CATHOLICOPHOBIC and another

PROTESTANTOPHOBIC yet another

ATHEISTOPHOBIC That just about covers it.

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you obviously don't know many councillors, ours seem to be laugh a minute, cut libraries, because we can't afford it, cut bin collections, because we can't afford it, cut old age pensioners lunch clubs because we can't afford it, but we can afford to have a zillion penpushers shuffling papers, and have people answering the phones at the council who don't seem to like or care about the people they are paid to serve Joe Public.
Makes me keel over laughing,
i am off to have some chocolate after that, and a coffee to swill it down
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sp1814

/// I've asked you this before, and didn't get an answer - why do you feel that marriage equality is unimportant? ///

/// Are you saying it is unimportant to you, because you don't have gay relatives, or are you saying that it in itself is not important generally? ///

You have asked me this numerous times and I have answered it the same numerous times, but let's have another go.

It may seem rather strange to you, but as a heterosexual, and not having any close personal ties with homosexuals, homosexual issues have little or no interest for me.

Regarding the issue of marriage equality, then yes to me it is unimportant, just as it is to some gays it seems, but just because some people find the subject one big yawn doesn't necessitate those in favour of gay marriages calling those with opposite views names such as 'Bigot', 'Homophobic' etc.

I am intelligent enough to realise that homosexuality is something one is born with, and although I find the act of copulating with a member of the same sex rather distasteful, I would not wish to see homosexuals discriminated against or victimised in any way, just because of their sexuality.

But I just cannot see why it is so important for them to want to high jack the committed union between a man and woman, that being the right to be married, after all civil partnerships fulfil all the legal issues between homosexual couples, and there is also no law which prevents them from considering themselves 'Married' if they so wish.



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andy-hughes

/// However, a sense of judgement and ability to accept that a position of rresponsibility requires a degree of understanding of consequences - they are essential - and this person shows he has neither. ///

I was merely making the point that one can hold down a job of even grater responsibility than a mere councillor, without first undergoing a humour by-pass.

Wouldn't this world be a lesser place if everyone went around with a po-face, and was incapable of seeing the funny side of things?
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/But I just cannot see why it is so important for them to want to high jack the committed union between a man and woman, that being the right to be married, after all civil partnerships fulfil all the legal issues between homosexual couples, and there is also no law which prevents them from considering themselves 'Married' if they so wish. /

Fair enough aog

In that case, and it really doesn't matter or make any difference then I assume you wouldn't mind doing a swop?

In that case, gay couples will have the right to get Married in 'a committed union' and all us heterosexuals will just be entitled to civil partnerships which as you rightly say /fulfil all the legal issues/

After all, as you point out, no law will prevent us from considering themselves 'Married' if we so wish.

As you think this should suffice for others, I'm sure, in the interests of fairness, you wouldn't mind being in that situation yourself.
as do many people, not just councillors, he shouldn't have posted it admittedly but you know what there are far worse things posted on the net.
There are, Em10. But how would one of his burkha wearing constituents feel if they had to go to him for help?
triggerhappy - exactly my point!

The issue is not whether the joke was funny - the issue is whether it has a proper place on the end of a counsellor's name in an international website.
if i am honest i don't actually care,
what i do care about are elderly getting a bad deal on pensions, care homes, not being able to heat homes,
children being abused, in all the ways imaginable
animals who are endangered through poaching, people believing there are some magical properties in rhino horn, or tiger skins,
far too much really...
e,10 - in that case, you will want your counsellors to take their job seriously, and steer clear ofdubious jokes, and the standard riposte of those taken to taask - to accuse others of lacking a sense of humour, when it is they who lack judgement - and that matters far more.
Just a follow up - he has been suspended so a bit more than banter one thinks!
Could bigot be a better word for all of these!
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sandyRoe

/// But how would one of his burkha wearing constituents feel if they had to go to him for help? ///

Be typically British and see the funny side I hope.
AOG - you seem to be wilfully ignoring the general concensus of the way this individual has behaved - which is without thought or judgement for someone in his position.

It is not enough to simply say that he meant it as a joke, therefore anyone who doesn;t see it as a joke is simply lacking in humour.

That is a casual cop-out used by him - and entirely in keeping with his inability to observe matters from outside his own narrow viewpoint.

It is certainly not worthy of you as a seasoned debater who is used to receiving all points of view on a daily basis.
What funny side do you see, aog? If someone suggested that your children looked like bin bags, how funny would you find it? And if what they were wearing was seen by you as required by your religion, how much funnier would it be?

Typically British ? Perhaps. My grandparents' generation thought foreigners were funny just for being foreigners. If that is still typically British , then it is.
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Strange how so far none of the 'regulars' have stated that this is only a Daily Mail 'non-story', or that they could be sensationalising the whole issue?
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good move aog

when you're beaten and have no answers that aren't blatantly ridiculous

change the subject
Not exactly epitome of local government leadership is it, and, especially for you AOG, a waste of a number of trees in printing this tosh.
AOG - trying to go off-piste from the argument is most unlike you - are you OK today?

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