Glad To See Most Of The Candidates Dropping This Net Zero Cobras....

[ToraToraTora]

...we make no difference to the world what so ever in that area and we are already the no 2 climate change responder. Not that it makes any difference what we do. We have control of 4% of the 4% anyway. So good to hear some sense in that area for a change.

[albaqwerty]

Be even better if they abolished all green taxation but little steps are good

[Peter Pedant]

thank god we have you! TTT
you should stand for PM!
you would only fail because you are too good for them

[Ellipsis]

Ironic if the leadership candidates are abandoning leadership on the biggest issue facing the planet's population, to get one of them elected as leader ...

[ToraToraTora]

Elipsis: "Ironic if the leadership candidates are abandoning leadership on the biggest issue facing the planet's population, to get one of them elected as leader ... !" - You miss the point, we cannot have an affect no matter what we do, all the painful measures come to nothing when the Chinese are building coal 200 power stations. Thankfully the candidates have realised that.

[ToraToraTora]

we have control of 4% of mankinds' 4% that's 0.16% if we cut that to zero tomorrow it makes no difference. This isn't about not doing our bit it's about arithmetic and using it to realise we cannot make any difference.

[Ellipsis]

How can we persuade anyone else to do the right thing, if we're abandoning doing the right thing ourselves? Leaders have an effect that's far bigger than they individually could muster.

[ToraToraTora]

Who cares, the big players, India, USA, China can make a difference we can't. Send Greta and the Eco warriors over there to glue themselves to the road.

[ToraToraTora]

...anyway, we are already a top climate change responder
https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-12-09/Which-countries-are-performing-best-and-worst-on-climate-change--W3YipJZm2A/index.html
we are showing the way.

[Ellipsis]

In that you'll be voting for them, and you like what they're saying, you're just reinforcing my post at 21:56 ...

[ToraToraTora]

yeah because the whole thing is pointless.

[Canary42]

TIT Logic: Less than 4% of murders take place in England. so let's save money by not prosecuting murderers.

[ToraToraTora]

have a day off canary.

[tomus42]

The candidates are trying to become elected and so telling the electorate (in this case Tory party members such as yourself) what they want to hear.

They will probably revert to sounding green when they have to appeal to a broader range of people.

[ynnafymmi]

@22.11.Has Greta ever been over to lecture the Chinese about saving the world?I dont think she has.I wonder why not.Would she be sent away with a flea in her ear by the socialists over there?

[archibaldy]

How can we be a top responder if it doesn’t make any difference what we do?

[ToraToraTora]

"How can we be a top responder if it doesn’t make any difference what we do? " - because it's on measures taken not the overall effect. Gawd It's like trying to explain something to 4 year olds.

[ToraToraTora]

did you read the link? above us is only Sweden and their population is much smaller.

[wolf63]

The fact that we have a smaller impact on the damage that we are doing to our planet doesn't mean we should do nothing. I agree that it should not be a priority.

There is so much wastage of money in government and in the civil service. The NHS needs money, but they waste money too. Nothing is going to happen overnight but we need to be moving in the right direction.

(I spent 24 years in the civil service. Each year we had a budget for repairs and running costs of the office. One year we had money left over which 'had' to be spent or we would get less the next year. They installed a shower on each of the floors of the building. They were not needed and seldom used. Good job I retired at the age of 40 - with my pension).

[fender62]

britain the lion that roared on climate change, coming from a government and previous ones, it's ironic that thye would put the onus on the population with grand ideas about change, without thinking of the consequences on the already burdened tax payer, it's like they think its ww2 ie make and mend, just stick it to them, they will manage..british grit and and all that, and what do the other parties say about it...nowt, all as bad as each other, mp's nice wage for nothing more or less, i imagine they assume everyone is on a similar wage or more, anyone on less is err them the nuisance.

[10ClarionSt]

Climate change is natural, not man-made. The Earth is warming up because it is still emerging from the last ice age, not because of cars and factories.