People My Age

[mallyh]

after reading about the shop lifter I can't help thinking that perhaps our parents and police had the right idea of a clip round the ears or legs for wrong doing ,most people I know say it didn't do them any harm we had respect for the police .teachers etc which sadly is lacking today .

[dannyk13]

Totally agree Mally.

[Rockrose]

You don't have to hit a child to get respect.
I never had any respect for my mother as she thought it acceptable to hit me, far more respect for my father who would punish me by removing books or TV or the computer.

[Sqad]

I never looked for "respect" from my kids and that never was my function.
Teaching them what was right and wrong was one of my main functions and respect followed or not as a poor consequence.

[AuntLydia]

Physical violence as a punishment does not work . How many posters here today would gladly 'clip' a child around the ear, but never ever dream of kicking a dog if it was naughty? Seriously? thing is, you can tell a child what they have done wrong and teach them, guide them by example but you can't do this to an animal. Smacking a child for ,say, bullying , is stupid! It just re enforces the fact that the bigger you are the more punishment you can deal out. Keeping a child locked up for 3 weeks because they stole half a bottle of vodka? Why not take them to the shop, apologise, then take them to the drunk tank or make them help at the salvation army, show them what drink does to people, make them get a job and pay the shopkeeper back twice over. All these things are punishment that may teach a child something. I was physically attacked (not smacked that is too light weight) by my mother for the smallest thing, not stealing fighting or anything like that. I hate her to this day. It taught me nothing more than 'don't get caught next time'

[ummmm]

No...I don't agree. Hitting doesn't work. Fear does not breed respect.

You take away all their luxuries and talk to them. Be stern.

When I went and meet my daughters school teacher I said to him that if she ever misbehaved...phone me. She never misbehaved.

She's not scared of me but she was scared of the punishment I'd give her. I think she'd rather be hit than be grounded and have all her stuff confiscated...

Violence does breed violence.

[mallyh]

i'm not advocating beatings but all my school friends got a clip from time to time or a blackboard rubber chucked at them and knuckles wrapped with a ruler and the worse thing was the i'm going to see your parents ,we had one bobby on the beat and an enormous sergeant who seemed to have eyes in the back of his head ,no one of us turned out been violent but we did respect our elders and the police etc.

[Mamyalynne]

I always respected my elders, I may have lost that respect had they been physical with me.

[hc4361]

When I was at school it was always the same kids getting the canings - it didn't stop them acting up, many saw it as something to brag about.

[mallyh]

what has gone wrong then .a lot of youngsters (not all) have no respect for people or .

[mallyh]

property ^^^

[Mamyalynne]

I grew up as we all did with children who had respect and some who didn't - the same is true today I feel.

Most young people I meet are charming,clever and fun to be with - if they're wrong 'uns then I tell them so.

[AuntLydia]

We had a couple of teachers who threw blackboard rubbers and one wacked everyone over the upturned hand because no one would 'grass up' someone. No one had respect for these two teachers they were laughing stocks. The teacher with the most respect treated his pupils fairly and with respect and no one without exception,played up in his class. It's a lazy punishment thrashing someone. Much less of an effort than explanation and guidance.

[hc4361]

I remember my father despairing of the 'today's youth' back in the 60s and 70s and how it wasn't like that in his day.

I bet his father was saying much the same thing when my dad was a kid

[AuntLydia]

The problem with today's parenting is that they feel the need to be 'bessie mates' with their kids. They pander to their darlings then when they hit puberty wonder why they are telling them to F off. Children thrive on discipline and knowing the rules. Once they know if the line is crossed there will be consequences, then fairly quickly they realise crossing the line is not good for them. I cringe seeing kids screaming for sweets in supermarkets , parents saying 'No' then five minutes later you see the kids scoffing the sweets cos the parents can't stand the hassle.

[webbo3]

Mamyalynne
\\Most young people I meet are charming,clever and fun to be with - if they're wrong 'uns then I tell them so.//

Perhaps you could have a chat with the moped thugs and naught knife wielding youngsters in L

[webbo3]

Perhaps you could have a chat with the moped thugs and naught knife wielding youngsters in London, im sure they will listen

[Mamyalynne]

I don't live in London so that's highly unlikely ( chances of me keeping up with a motorised scooter is far fetched too)and I have accepted there are bad people, I even said I grew up with some - I feel that whether we recall or not there have always been disrespectful sorts.

It's a sweeping generalisation to say that a clip round the ear or a slap on the legs would solve any criminal behaviour.

Exactly as Hc said, the same people day after day lined up for the cane.

[Mamyalynne]

However you quoted me bob on Webbo - those are the attributes of the majority of young people I meet.

That is no lie.