Covid ... Will It Ever Go?

[smurfchops]

So when we go into lockdown the cases gradually come down. But as soon as we go back to “normal” surely the cases will rise again due to so many Covidiots... people swanning off abroad, not wearing masks, etc. Or am I wrong? I just can’t see us ever being clear of this. Not everyone will be vaccinated. It’s not 100% anyway, and people coming from abroad etc. Sorry to appear so negative.

[ichkeria]

It’ll gradually fade in significance as all other viruses and diseases have.
Only smallpox has disappeared tho.
People will develop greater resistance through vaccination or antibodies.
How this pandemic will permanently change life for the future is another matter

[ichkeria]

The really depressing likelihood tho is that conditions are ripe for new viruses to emerge and spread more frequently than in the past. Tho they may not all spread as easily. We’ve had deadlier outbreaks in the recent past but of viruses which spread less easily.
This one is deadly enough but imagine one which combined extra deadliness and spread quickly too

[Peter Pedant]

// generally reliable sources (such as WHO officials, professors of epidemiology, etc)//

yeah but no but - they wd say that wdnt they?

polio measles small pox shows it can be done

Think of the Sages from a year ago - have they been muzzled or fired? A lot of advice can be summed up as - "I need tenure as aprofessor for this very long term prob, at least 5 techies as it is so important, a very large computer and a pay rise"
oh and yeah COVID is here to stay

BSE has gone and HIV cant exactly be called a plague

[joeski53]

The BMJ say the testing is still being done on the South African/Brazilian variant, they say its possible the protection could be reduced, but they are not sure yet, I did read of large spike proteins That was the 18th Jan so its up to date. I did read somewhere that one of the Oxford clinical trial specialist say that the crucial period will be when many many people are vaccinated. Thats the BMJ not me

[Sunk]

The regular flu we still get every year is the tamed version of the 1918 Spanish Flu.

The same will happen with Covid-19.

We will get on top of it, and beat it, but a strain will remain that will be constantly mutating, and a yearly vaccination programme of the vulnerable will be the future.

[Peter Pedant]

// https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n158//

is the discussion about the new variants

"Madam I have a very large spike protein! do you want to have a look!" does figure - but then says that the spike is so large it is unlikely to escape in one jump ALL the antibodies the vaccine generates.

I dont know if they point out that vaccination wont affect the Bra-heel or Sarf efrican variant because they are already there, but there is a hurry to get it all done to slow further mutation.

it is certainly NOT true to say
oh the virus has changed, so it is not worth having the vacc.
( bearing in mind that this is AB and a lorra free thinking goes on)

[Peter Pedant]

and as usual - - - we have to wait and see

[joeski53]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9164179/Britain-records-deadliest-day-Covid-pandemic-began-1-610-new-victims.html?ito=push-notification&ci=69763&;si=24042897

[Sqad]

I agree with those who have posted in a positive way.......of course it will go, if by that you mean,will it play a significant part in our lives.YES it WILL go. The boys at Porton are no mugs and I have even faith in them as I do with such centres around the world.
In my professional life, I have seen threats from pneumonia, TB, measles,polio, HIV, Influenza, all life threatening diseases now rarely mentioned.
I have never experienced anything on this scale as Covid is providing.....NEVER.
I can't say how long it will affect our lives, but I can say, whether due to vaccines or anti viral drugs it will be pushed into the background.....into the rough.

[joeski53]

//it is certainly NOT true to say
oh the virus has changed, so it is not worth having the vacc.//
Who has said that?? may i ask

[ichkeria]

It isn't really the "deadliest day" though: it's the day when they have posted the highest number of newly recorded deaths of people who died in the last 28 days (supposedly) after testing positive. Or the latest previously unrecorded deaths of anyone dying withing 28 days of testing positive - I am never sure exactly which. And presumably includes "catch up" from previously recorded totals.

[woofgang]

for once Sqad, I agree with you. I was on clincal placement in the London Hospital in the early 70's and I can remember the amazement when immigrant children started turning up with "unusual"paralysis or a wasted limb usually picked up at their GP when they had gone for other reasons, occasionally by the school nurse. The older medics knew it for disability following polio but the youngsters were gobsmacked.

[Sqad]

Woofy..........we missed each other by 10 years.
We could have had a session in the Good Samaria.

[Sqad]

SAMARITAN.

[Zacs-Master]

It will go, I agree, It's just the timescale were uncertain of and the effect on business which will shape our future.

[woofgang]

sqad, I was only there for 2 months. We did 11 months of clinical practice rotated over two physical hospitals and two mental health hospitals.

[Sqad]

LOL 2 months woofy,that would have given me ample time to " get to know you,"....;-)

[LadyCG]

You're a dirty old dawg, Sqad ;-)

Yes Covid will eventually go away. The last recorded case will be on 28 March 2026.

[Bobbisox1]

Eek!!! I'll be 79 then, can't happen , I've a whole lotta living' to do before then :0(

[joeski53]

It isn't really the "deadliest day" though: it's the day when they have posted the highest number of newly recorded deaths of people who died in the last 28 days (supposedly) after testing positive. Or the latest previously unrecorded deaths of anyone dying withing 28 days of testing positive - I am never sure exactly which. And presumably includes "catch up" from previously recorded totals.

30% rise since last Tuesday how is that wrong ??