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hi, does anybody own a corso? i've fallen in love with them but all the advice suggests that they're not for the first time dog owner, which i would be. is this because they are big or hard to train? why???
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Lankeela, I can see your intentions, but when someone posts for advice then gets told 'you're not worthy' its wrong. As for cars analogy you only here about the small amount of 17yr olds that kill themselves not the vast majority. Advice is what was asked for, not judgement. Also, i've seen large men struggle with GSDs, if you can cope with them I don't see why any other breed would be a problem?
I have never said 'you're not worthy'. The question was why is the advice given that they are not suitable for first time owners. I have tried to answer this. Whether this is accepted is up to them, but why ask for advice if you are not going to take notice of it. It will not affect my life one toyota
but it might make the life of the person asking that little bit easier if they do take notice.
but it might make the life of the person asking that little bit easier if they do take notice.
I quote 'I cannot tell you in a more tactful way - this is not the breed for you. ' = you are not worthy. How do you know???
How many first time Cane Corso owners are there that do ok, you know 2 that don't!!! 'Don't do that!!' was the constructive advice my mother gae me on smoking, drinking and taking drugs. What did it make me do....Kita appears to be of the same opinion as you but has offered constructive advice.
How many first time Cane Corso owners are there that do ok, you know 2 that don't!!! 'Don't do that!!' was the constructive advice my mother gae me on smoking, drinking and taking drugs. What did it make me do....Kita appears to be of the same opinion as you but has offered constructive advice.
For what it�s worth, I strongly agree with Lankeela.
You said �all the advice suggests that they are not for the first time owner� . Why do you think "all the advice" suggests this? Is it because they know better, or because they have had loads of experience in training dogs (of all breeds) or because they just want to put you off, for their own reasons?
You also asked if the breed was hard to train � Lankeela told it straight and pulled no punches. Just because she gave her opinion (isn�t that why you asked the question in the first place?) and it wasn�t what you wanted to hear, don�t call her harsh and negative and sarcastic.
You also say that you�ve had your share of troublesome pets � doesn�t that statement alone tell you that training pets is not your strength, and that this breed in your hands means trouble?
This breed is not for a first time dog owner and needs a lot of time and training, exercise and training, feeding and training and then more training � none of which is cheap or easy to come by.
By the sound of it, you�ve �seen one so want one� � regardless of how much you know about dogs (obviously zilch, from your comments).
A Cane Corso is probably the a status symbol to you, a protection dog�..which makes me want to ask ��what do you need protection from?
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You said �all the advice suggests that they are not for the first time owner� . Why do you think "all the advice" suggests this? Is it because they know better, or because they have had loads of experience in training dogs (of all breeds) or because they just want to put you off, for their own reasons?
You also asked if the breed was hard to train � Lankeela told it straight and pulled no punches. Just because she gave her opinion (isn�t that why you asked the question in the first place?) and it wasn�t what you wanted to hear, don�t call her harsh and negative and sarcastic.
You also say that you�ve had your share of troublesome pets � doesn�t that statement alone tell you that training pets is not your strength, and that this breed in your hands means trouble?
This breed is not for a first time dog owner and needs a lot of time and training, exercise and training, feeding and training and then more training � none of which is cheap or easy to come by.
By the sound of it, you�ve �seen one so want one� � regardless of how much you know about dogs (obviously zilch, from your comments).
A Cane Corso is probably the a status symbol to you, a protection dog�..which makes me want to ask ��what do you need protection from?
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Get one and you WILL regret it. I wonder when I�ll see you on the news, after your status symbol dog, that hasn�t been trained properly by you, or the novelty of owning that cute oversized puppy has worn off, and attacked someone/thing, and has to be destroyed. Oh, I forgot that you �would never get rid of an animal� � not even of it attacked your child, or other dogs?
And don�t go ranting at me � you were the one who asked the question �why are they hard to train?�. If you�ve never trained a dog (and you obviously haven�t because of your �fair share of troublesome pets� � your words not mine!), what makes you think you could start off with such a breed?
And to Bigeye74 � �Doing OK� and �making mistakes� with a Rhodesian Ridgeback isn�t ENOUGH. So you think it�s ok to tie your dog up outside a shop? And keep it in a crate �a lot of the time�?
Gawd save us!
And don�t go ranting at me � you were the one who asked the question �why are they hard to train?�. If you�ve never trained a dog (and you obviously haven�t because of your �fair share of troublesome pets� � your words not mine!), what makes you think you could start off with such a breed?
And to Bigeye74 � �Doing OK� and �making mistakes� with a Rhodesian Ridgeback isn�t ENOUGH. So you think it�s ok to tie your dog up outside a shop? And keep it in a crate �a lot of the time�?
Gawd save us!
La Diva,
I'm impressed with your in depth analysis of someones animal handling capabilities from 1 post on a website. As i said, guidence is what was asked for not judgement. Again, look at kitas reply.
As for my dog,she spends her time when we are out in her crate, not around the house. And where else do you suggest leaving her when I go into the local shop? As for doing alright, shes great with other dogs and kids and is obedient without being fearful, what more could one ask for???
I'm impressed with your in depth analysis of someones animal handling capabilities from 1 post on a website. As i said, guidence is what was asked for not judgement. Again, look at kitas reply.
As for my dog,she spends her time when we are out in her crate, not around the house. And where else do you suggest leaving her when I go into the local shop? As for doing alright, shes great with other dogs and kids and is obedient without being fearful, what more could one ask for???
Further to my last post La Diva, who the #### are you to judge how I rear my dog? Also, the only real mistake we made was not getting her from a reputable breeder. There were reasons for this, however I was a mistake (only financially) we won't make again.
The anonymity of the internet isn't an excuse to meter out your judgment when advise is asked for.
Dear Dear Dear lord save us (hope i'm on a different boat).
The anonymity of the internet isn't an excuse to meter out your judgment when advise is asked for.
Dear Dear Dear lord save us (hope i'm on a different boat).
First of all � I accept the allure that some people have of large powerful breeds. But I also accept that some people who own large breeds are not necessarily responsible dog owners � for whatever reason (inexperience, lack of knowledge etc).
Iheartruby says in her original question and subsequent replies that she is a first time dog owner. So her dog-handling capabilities are yet to be proven (although she admits she�s had her share of troublesome pets). All the advice and most of the comments iheartruby has received and found when researching have said, �This breed is not for the first time owner�.
I have read Kita�s reply and agree with what she is advising
iheart ruby to do � join the breed club, go to shows and talk to breeders. Kita, with all her experience, has said quite bluntly that her dog, a similar breed, is not a good family pet.
You asked what I�d suggest about where to leave your dog while you go to the local shop. As you�ve asked, I�ll reply: I�d suggest you leave her at home.
You�re not in control of your dog when its tied up outside a shop. At the same time, however, you ARE responsible for any actions taken by your dog when you�re not there. (I don�t leave my dogs tied up outside a shop because I�m afraid that they might be taken. Or an aggressive dog went for one of them and damage was caused by either the attacker or one of my dogs.)
You say that iheartruby was asking for advice. When it was given to her (an inexperienced, future first-time dog-owner), she called comments from Lankeela � a dog owner with more than 30years experience - �harsh, negative and sarcastic�. Lankeela�s reply wasn�t what iheartruby wanted to hear.
I�m not using the anonymity of the internet to meter out my judgement � I�m saying nothing on here that I wouldn�t say to your face.
End of discussion as far as I�m concerned.
Iheartruby says in her original question and subsequent replies that she is a first time dog owner. So her dog-handling capabilities are yet to be proven (although she admits she�s had her share of troublesome pets). All the advice and most of the comments iheartruby has received and found when researching have said, �This breed is not for the first time owner�.
I have read Kita�s reply and agree with what she is advising
iheart ruby to do � join the breed club, go to shows and talk to breeders. Kita, with all her experience, has said quite bluntly that her dog, a similar breed, is not a good family pet.
You asked what I�d suggest about where to leave your dog while you go to the local shop. As you�ve asked, I�ll reply: I�d suggest you leave her at home.
You�re not in control of your dog when its tied up outside a shop. At the same time, however, you ARE responsible for any actions taken by your dog when you�re not there. (I don�t leave my dogs tied up outside a shop because I�m afraid that they might be taken. Or an aggressive dog went for one of them and damage was caused by either the attacker or one of my dogs.)
You say that iheartruby was asking for advice. When it was given to her (an inexperienced, future first-time dog-owner), she called comments from Lankeela � a dog owner with more than 30years experience - �harsh, negative and sarcastic�. Lankeela�s reply wasn�t what iheartruby wanted to hear.
I�m not using the anonymity of the internet to meter out my judgement � I�m saying nothing on here that I wouldn�t say to your face.
End of discussion as far as I�m concerned.
No no La Diva, take your crystal ball, climb on your broom and be rude to other genuine posters. Absolute bluntness is not the way to do business and in my experience gets met with a level of violence.
AGAIN kitas reply was polite, to the point and full of advice. Telling someone not to do something generally gets there back up and makes them do it. Politely saying that they need to think long and hard before they make a decision and then telling them how to get the info needed is the way to go.
As for leaving the dog outside a shop, the walk before and after is better than crating her.
Please please pop round and advise me to my face on how I should be looking after my dog, the kettles on ready.
AGAIN kitas reply was polite, to the point and full of advice. Telling someone not to do something generally gets there back up and makes them do it. Politely saying that they need to think long and hard before they make a decision and then telling them how to get the info needed is the way to go.
As for leaving the dog outside a shop, the walk before and after is better than crating her.
Please please pop round and advise me to my face on how I should be looking after my dog, the kettles on ready.
lankeela, as i think i have made clear, this decision would not be taken lightly and i was always going to do my research - and thank goodness tha answerbank gives us the opportunity to ask poeple direct who have experience. i would NEVER put an amial to sleep or put it into care because i couldn't cope - maybe some people would - and believe me i hate this slack behaviour just as much as you seem to. the whole point of me asking on here was to find out and i think i have gathered enough info to come to a decision. i just wonder what you think we should do with these powerful dogs? hand the over to the police like we did APBs? have them all eradicated? surely it lies with the breeder to decide who is fit to own one and i loathe to say that some unscrupulous breeders may just be in for the money. only recently i saw a card in a shop window advertising dobermans with 'no papers' but for quite a lot of money.... it sent a shiver down my spine!
i respect what you say as you obviously have experience, i just didn't expect to be treated so harshly by trying to find out about a breed. i thought i was doing to right thing by asking rather than just going ahead and trying to get one.
i respect what you say as you obviously have experience, i just didn't expect to be treated so harshly by trying to find out about a breed. i thought i was doing to right thing by asking rather than just going ahead and trying to get one.
Well done, iheartruby, for your question in the first place and for taking on board the comments the experienced dog-owners have given.
I�m sorry that your post turned into something that it shouldn�t have, but this is a matter very close to my heart at the moment � having just last week had one of my dogs almost ripped to pieces by a large dog which couldn�t be handled by its owner.
Another incident was when another large breed puppy was tied up outside of a local shop and when a child went to stroke it, the dog turned on him. The child is now scarred for life � both mentally and physically.
I apologise if my comments were harsh but I�m sure you�ll understand.
I�m sorry that your post turned into something that it shouldn�t have, but this is a matter very close to my heart at the moment � having just last week had one of my dogs almost ripped to pieces by a large dog which couldn�t be handled by its owner.
Another incident was when another large breed puppy was tied up outside of a local shop and when a child went to stroke it, the dog turned on him. The child is now scarred for life � both mentally and physically.
I apologise if my comments were harsh but I�m sure you�ll understand.
Cane corso dogs are not recognised by the KC therefore they never have 'papers'. The majority of breeders of these that I have seen ARE in it for the money, I have seen one advertised recently for 1,700! There are also many crossbreeds of this size which I find really scary they are bred without thought of health or temperament.
I understand what you say about never parting with an animal, but sometimes circumstances change and it is the best thing for the animal to rehome it or put it with the breed rescue. My dog is now 11 and every day has been a challenge, he has pushed me to the limit many times. I have also been very proud of him, can take him virtually anywhere and he is very much admired locally. Part of the reason I got him was because I was heavily involved in training classes and I did not want people to say to me 'have you ever owned one? No? Well how can you tell me what to do'. I also wish to go into rescue and I know that I will come across many of these breeds/x breeds.
Sadly it is really easy to get hold of dogs of this size and strength and I really fear what we are going to see in the next few years, I think that incidents like La Diva mentioned are going to become far more common, I also think that the police are going to have to be prepared to shoot these dogs on the street (how else will anyone pts one of these that has flipped).
I understand what you say about never parting with an animal, but sometimes circumstances change and it is the best thing for the animal to rehome it or put it with the breed rescue. My dog is now 11 and every day has been a challenge, he has pushed me to the limit many times. I have also been very proud of him, can take him virtually anywhere and he is very much admired locally. Part of the reason I got him was because I was heavily involved in training classes and I did not want people to say to me 'have you ever owned one? No? Well how can you tell me what to do'. I also wish to go into rescue and I know that I will come across many of these breeds/x breeds.
Sadly it is really easy to get hold of dogs of this size and strength and I really fear what we are going to see in the next few years, I think that incidents like La Diva mentioned are going to become far more common, I also think that the police are going to have to be prepared to shoot these dogs on the street (how else will anyone pts one of these that has flipped).
In my hunt to bone up on Dogue de Bordeauxs I can accross an advertisement for puppies that desribed them as 'beautiful, loads of wrinkles' and neglected to mention the 50 kg of potential destruction that they could become.
Kita, if KC doesn't recognise the breed, does that mean there isn't a body to register the litter with? (for insurance purposes).
Kita, if KC doesn't recognise the breed, does that mean there isn't a body to register the litter with? (for insurance purposes).
lankeela, i did not 'rubbish' your advice! i asked a question, you gave your reply and it was noted, not just by myself, that it was blunt. it was your tone that was picked up on, not your dog experience/advice.
i am unlikely to get a corso, based on all the advice i have been given on here. i do take notice of what experienced people say, but i really didn't come on here to get into an argument.
la diva - what the? no protection is needed from anything or anyone - my husband is built like a brick ****house - he looks after me very well :-) lots and lots and lots of love you big diva you! kiss kiss kiss.
i am unlikely to get a corso, based on all the advice i have been given on here. i do take notice of what experienced people say, but i really didn't come on here to get into an argument.
la diva - what the? no protection is needed from anything or anyone - my husband is built like a brick ****house - he looks after me very well :-) lots and lots and lots of love you big diva you! kiss kiss kiss.
hi,
i work at kennels and we get one in. hes huge and not the friendliest of creatures. would not reccommend with children or if you have little experience with dogs. require lots of training too. look em up on the net and speak to your vets or a breeder in ur area and theyl tell u more. but dont rush into it
i work at kennels and we get one in. hes huge and not the friendliest of creatures. would not reccommend with children or if you have little experience with dogs. require lots of training too. look em up on the net and speak to your vets or a breeder in ur area and theyl tell u more. but dont rush into it
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