How Can The Truth Be Offensive?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-called-out-for-blanket-accusation-as-he-says-growing-number-of-muslims-loathe-british-values-13143302

"Nigel Farage has argued on Sky News that a "growing number" of young Muslims in the UK do not subscribe to British values." - bang on, it seems the truth offends the trobiscite supporters if Islam.

[10ClarionSt]

Coldhurst has a large Bangladeshi population but I'm not aware of it being a band contest venue. But I've never seen any Asians or others over the years, and I've been to quite a few, Dobcross, Delph, Uppermill, Lydgate, Freisland, Denshaw, Diggle to name a few. 

[Auntypoll]

Having not been racist then having direct contact with Muslims l know we are in big trouble. One nod or wink from some loonie Muslim leader and there will be bloodshed not seen since the IRA campaigns of the 1970's

[Gromit]

10ClarionSt

Greenfield use to be my favourite destination for the Whit Friday Band Contests. The site is next to the village cricket ground and the King Bill pub.

whilst the youth didn't bother much with the bands, they were active paricipants in the cricket.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "It isn't the truth.

Opposing Israel's massacre of 35,000 muslims in Gaza is not anti-British. Many British lives were lost in Palestine by terrorists establishing the State of Israel. 
Idly watching the carnage and saying nothing is not British, and not morally right." - this isn't about the Hamas terrorists it's about muslims here not embracing the British way of life and trying to turn it into some sort of caliphate.

[Gromit]

TTT,

Farage said:

// we see them on the streets of London every Saturday." //

I assumed he was refering to the Pro Palestinian protests. What else could he mean ?

[Gromit]

Obviously anecdotal observations that Farage makes based on what he sees in London does not represent the behaviour of all muslims, simply because not all muslims live in the capital.

[andy-hughes]

It doesn't represent all Muslims who do live in the capital either.

[Old_Geezer]

I think he implies it is a sufficiently large portion of Muslims to conclude it is a national problem. Especially when not every supporter of something actively protests for it. Hamas/Israeli conflict to one side, as it is a red herring in this thread, there is still a perception issue about followers of Islam that is mainly down to a visible lack of integration and insistent demands by some that the worst parts of their culture take root here. It's a problem that particular religious group needs to address. Or at least those insistent on holding anti-British culture views ought to find a place where they would be happier, rather than try to force change here.

[Deskdiary]

For Pro-Palestian read Pro-Hamas.

 

The Palestinians don't need to be protected from Israel, they need protecting from Hamas.

[Hymie]

Femi explains why this racist bigot should not be given airtime on UK TV to make his hate speeches.

 

Worryingly, many ABers seem to approve of what this racist bigot has to say.

 

[ToraToraTora]

Femi V Katie!

 

[Deskdiary]

Yes, TTTs video is much more compelling  that Hymie's. Hymie doesn't have a mind of his own and relies on You Tube to form his opinion.

 

Hopkins makes a compelling point about the Brexit vote, in that the Femi of the world consider their vote more important than older people because they have to live with the consequences. That's not how democracy works. The left may not like it, but all votes are equal.

 

BTW, I voted remain, the difference is I respect democracy. The whiners do not.

[Hymie]

//Hymie doesn't have a mind of his own and relies on You Tube to form his opinion//

So you don’t think Farage is a racist bigot?

[Deskdiary]

I don't think you have a mind of your own and you rely on You Tube to form your opinion.

 

I also think you are a bit dim.

 

You asked, I answered.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // Femi V Katie! //

As any regular on this site knows, I rate Katie Hopkins' opinions on anything as slightly less valid and useful than a four-year-old's opinion on the dark side of the moon.

But I was seriously impressed with her ability to conduct an interview with a naive and seriously under-prepared mouthpiece for a bogus organisation.

Democracy means that any vote is taken, and binding, on the day it is taken.

The notion that a younger demographic will hold sway in a pre-determined timescale is arrant nonsense, because it does not allow for the simple fact that in 'x' number of years, everyone gets another vote which is also valis at the time, not just people under twenty-five who voted to remain this time.

And Katie Hopkins, to my considerable admiration, skewered the facile nonsese of this fool's argument with cold logic, incisive questions, cool logic, and the ability to tug hard on the line when the fish is gasping.

If she carries on doing things like this, my opnion of her is open to reversal - because I am never unwilling to admit if i am in error, and on the basis of this, I may be.

But I doubt it - because next time I see her, she will probably revert to type which is stating the obvious as though she is the first and only person to have thought of it.

But this time - hat off to Ms Hopkins.

[ToraToraTora]

I also am not her greatest fan AH but I am glad that like me you can see that she easily made this unprpared idiot look a total wally. Sadly hymie seems incapable of standing back from his ingrained views to consider the possibility that there is some validity to an opposing view.

[Hymie]

No, I asked if you don’t think Farage is a racist bigot – not whether you think I’m a bit dim.

[ToraToraTora]

Farage is not a racist bigot.

[Hymie]

I think by his words and actions that he is.

[ToraToraTora]

He is accurate about Islam. It's not racism to point out an evident trait of a religion. Religion is not a race in cannot be racism. You do seem remarkably unaware of the thjings you continue to spout.