Will You Sign This Petition Aimed At Helping Pensioners?

[sandyRoe]

https://chng.it/7dTDyPxq2c

If enough signed it may concentrate the minds of those in government.  

It can't be right that pensioners spend their Twilight years in poverty.

[retrocop]

Not me. I recall subsidising pensioners at both my mother and father's nursing homes at the end of their lives. The fees,for them, were astronomic. A good 50%+ of the residents had lived in council property and survived thank you very much on the social most of theeir adult lives. My parents money and latterly my money subsidised the feckless and the local council paid the remainder. No such luck for my parents who never relied on handouts and made the mistake of working hard to pay a mortgage to buy their own property only for the scroungers to benefit from us.

[Old_Geezer]

Difficult as I see both sides, but at present I'm persuaded by the nay arguments given. Namely ...

a) The living wage is meant to reflect living costs for younger folk not those who have reached the 'finance poor, time rich' stage of life. Demands on your finances should be a lot lower in later life (unless you have an empty property and evil government robs you every year because they prefer to abuse citizens rather than help them !)

b) while I have sympathy for those unable to put resources into saving for retirement, we do have a welfare system that, while far from idea, does provide benefits for those in need. So a basic pension increase isn't justified.

c) if pensioner poverty is real then the requirement has to be to look at the benefits system not the pension.

 

I'm sure when I started writing I had another point, but, senior moment, I've forgotten it by the time I got here. But that all said, while we seem less generous than most western European nations regarding pension, I'm all in favour of a proper overhaul (which should include reversing the stupid continuous rising qualifying age) and putting it onto a more secure footing. Decide whether it's a citizen's benefit right, or a contribution thing; and stop using present contibutions to fund present costs, i.e. avoid what is effectively a governmental Ponzi scheme situation. It's just that the petition demand doesn't tackle that.

[Khandro]

Not I, & just think: immigrants get old as well & will receive o.a. pensions too. Many already do, having contributed sweet f.a.

So much needs sorting out, but who's going to do it ?

[10ClarionSt]

I've said all that needs saying about the despotic tyrant Thatcher. She was a complete arm pit.

[barney4444]

An influential global body has forecast Russia's economy will grow faster than all of the world's advanced economies, including the US, this year.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) expects Russia to grow 3.2% this year, significantly more than the UK, France and Germany.

Hardly sound's like they queuing for bread tora tora, there's more food poverty here.   

[douglas9401]

What we really need is the TTT Party to come to the fore, that way our problems will all be solved in one term and we can all get dahn the rub-a-dub for a knees up.

Yours etc,

 

I. Malwright-Jack.

[ToraToraTora]

You do need the TTT party doug. Not "I'm all right" but "do your bit". Everyone should do what they can to help themselves. There would be no council estate baby farms under a TTT government. Anyone not working will get food and a bed that's it no public dosh to spend on waccy baccy etc.

[jno]

Nearly 1 million people aged over 66 in the UK are living in deprivation, according to government statistics

perhaps if we didn't waste money giving them Covid jabs the problem would sort itself?

[ToraToraTora]

jno, what the fork have covid injection got to do with this?

[retrocop]

Yes jno.Don't give i million OAPs a covid jab and see how many more would no longer be recipients of a pension. That will sort it. Just kill em off.

[sandyRoe]

A few replies here showing some people would cut off their noses to spite their faces.

Funny old world.

 

[davebro3]

//A few replies here showing some people would cut off their noses to spite their faces.//

Or just realising that the petition as framed is unaffordable and in fact a complete nonsense.

[THECORBYLOON]

From the petition, "The government has set a living wage for good reason - it's what people need to live." 

If that's the argument, surely every adult, whether working or on benefits should receive at least the same weekly amount?

[jno]

just thinking that quick Covid would be more humane than slow starvation, TTT. Just call me empathetic.