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ludwigvan | 23:39 Sat 03rd Apr 2021 | Body & Soul
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Will the country forgive the G.P.’s for going into hiding when we needed them most?
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Down here you have to call and wait for telephone triage! Husband was told to go to A & E when he hurt his knee. The hospital was very rude and complained that they “were fed up with GP’s offloading patients to A & E when they should deal with it”. Six months on, he had had to call again as knee no better. Sent him to Physio. That was better. But no one gets to see the doctor.
Good for you but this is really about people getting to see a doctor about other than vaccination. Matt Hancock in my view is biggest bull sh******er in government.
Tea cake, I was illustrating that they were excellent doctors, not only carrying out usual duties but also carrying out a highly successful vaccine programme. I obviously touched raw nerve!
Perhaps you should stop and think TC. I knew what the thread was about.
//The people of North Norfolk have been praised by the health secretary in an Easter message as more than three in five people in the district have now been vaccinated.//

Then it's more luck than judgement. My sister lives in a reasonably sized town in North Norfolk and is diabetic. She had to move heaven and Earth to get her first jab. Despite being in the age group that was being called up, her GP surgery was not administering the jabs. She was firstly invited to Kings Lynn hospital (18 miles away and she doesn't drive) then told not to go there with just one day's notice of cancellation. The 119 service would not deal with her as she was told her GP had to refer her. Her GP told her she must deal with 119 as she had declined a hospital appointment. She eventually persuaded her GP to get things rolling. Numerous phone calls and almost four weeks passed before she finally got an invitation to a surgery in a small village three miles away.

Mr Hancock is being sold male bovine excrement from people looking for an MBE for services to the vaccination rollout.
Like I said good for you, glad your not experiencing what a lot are, trying to get to see a doctor. During this whole pandemic Matt Hancock has only ( once ) called on doctors to start seeing people face to face, so he knows there's a problem there, or he wouldn't have called on them in this way. The easy option for him now is to ignore it, and bang on about the great vaccination success, but there's people dying of other problems that need not. And yes even the mention of this slime ball makes my blood pressure go up.
//Mr Hancock is being sold male bovine excrement//

Nah, Hancock is full of male bovine excrement, and not as useful (I cant put Hancock round my roses)
ludwigvan: "Tora, why do you always ask for a link to something? Can you not accept that someone can have an original idea or thought and that it is not prompted by something they have read? " - yes I can imagine that but when you are talking about every GP in the country, I assumed that you had not researched them all yourself so I assumed you must have encountered some sort of report or news story. So are you saying that your proposition that every GP in the country has been in "hiding" is purely your own research? Or based only on your own experience?
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Grow up Tora.
16.42 Hancock's only fed the bull****** by Boris , poor old hancock is just the stooge.
New Judge. Obviously don't know where your sister lives. But surprised. We live 18 ems east of Kings Lynn and I haven't heard of many problems in North Norfolk, but this thread was about doctors and unwanted to make the point that not all doctors' surgeries are acting in the same way. I presume the OP has done a survey!

ludwigan: "Grow up Tora. " - err can you explain how you arrived at the fact that every GP in the country is in hiding? How did you gather the data, FOI requests? How did you collate and analyse? What are your criteria for determining that a GP is in "hiding"?
I know not all GPs are the same.

I only have direct experience of one (my own) and quite frankly, even without the latest problems, I'd be better off without a GP at all. I'd far prefer to simply refer myself to a person who can provide some help. On the few occasions I've needed specialist help I've had to do that anyway, except that I cannot do so without permission from the GP who simply acts as a "gatekeeper" (with inbuilt delay).
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Every time this topic comes up the answers are the same - in some parts patients have been well informed and attended to,in others patients feel let down.

It's not a case of forgiving but it would be good to think we could get a level of care that we feel we should have.

...and no Tora, I don't have a link.
Someone is looking ridiculous again, that's for sure.
So reading N/J's post @ 16.57. Matt Hancock was just bulling Norfolk up to boost his own popularity . Think he is starting to be more of a comedian than Tony Hancock
Our surgery is generally very good and we have far more praise than complaints. But the inability to actually see someone makes things very difficult. E.G. OH has a reaction to his covid injection, the nurses do their best for a few weeks (he's seeing them because of a wound) but it takes one of them saying that the GP needs to see the problem before he got a proper appointment (another 10 days) - after which massive and effective action has been taken - very good. The delay wasn't.

I'm currently in a lot of pain (back muscles,tendons etc. - it is bad, horrible cramps) and am swigging paracetamol by the bucketload. I was offered a telephone consultation with the physio - a week later. This led to her offering me a physical meeting a week after that. I'm not sleeping and I could cry, quite honestly. I think about ringing the GP in the morning, but I know it will be useless.

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