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What Date Will History Deem To Be U K Independence Day?
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Should it be 23rd June 2016 when we decided to leave or 1st Feb 2020 the first full day of freedom from the EUSSR?.
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I guess from a purely legalistic viewpoint, it has to be 31-1-20. Mrs NJ and I - most unexpectantl
15:12 Sat 18th Jan 2020
I guess from a purely legalistic viewpoint, it has to be 31-1-20.
Mrs NJ and I - most unexpectantly - celebrated on 24th June ‘16 (my local Waitrose had almost run out of assorted alcoholic fizz by 10am). However, neither we nor our fellow celebrants envisaged the guerrilla warfare that would be waged in the following three and a half years as the Great and the Good tried to stymie all of us 17.4m ignorant racists who had conspired to shatter their EUtopian dream.
The real celebrations will not be justified for a while yet. We have this year to go when the shenanigans and hostilities will be resumed over the “trade deal” and during which time not much will change. I think we can all look forward to "Project Fear Mk III", as dire warnings of the pestilence, war, famine and death that will be visited upon the country unless we accede to the EU’s every demand will once again be trotted out by the usual suspects. Thankfully many of them were been consigned to the political dustbin last month.
Those celebrations may also be gradual as the country comes to reap the benefits of opening its eyes to trade and commerce with the wider world and is unbound by the over-regulated, protectionist racket that is the EU. Hopefully that wretched organisation will open its eyes too and realise that 93% of the world’s population lives outside its borders and that most of global economic growth is to be found in those places. They may also learn that keeping the UK onside will mean forfeiting some of the rights it has taken as almost a divine given. But I’ll not hold my breath.
Meanwhile, Mrs NJ and I will be sharing another bottle of bubbly on 31st January, saving some of it to chink glasses as the clock strikes eleven. For us it marks the beginning of the end of a disastrous political experiment for the UK. It was an experiment which we vowed we would vote to reverse if ever given the chance. We were finally given that chance and we grabbed it.
Mrs NJ and I - most unexpectantly - celebrated on 24th June ‘16 (my local Waitrose had almost run out of assorted alcoholic fizz by 10am). However, neither we nor our fellow celebrants envisaged the guerrilla warfare that would be waged in the following three and a half years as the Great and the Good tried to stymie all of us 17.4m ignorant racists who had conspired to shatter their EUtopian dream.
The real celebrations will not be justified for a while yet. We have this year to go when the shenanigans and hostilities will be resumed over the “trade deal” and during which time not much will change. I think we can all look forward to "Project Fear Mk III", as dire warnings of the pestilence, war, famine and death that will be visited upon the country unless we accede to the EU’s every demand will once again be trotted out by the usual suspects. Thankfully many of them were been consigned to the political dustbin last month.
Those celebrations may also be gradual as the country comes to reap the benefits of opening its eyes to trade and commerce with the wider world and is unbound by the over-regulated, protectionist racket that is the EU. Hopefully that wretched organisation will open its eyes too and realise that 93% of the world’s population lives outside its borders and that most of global economic growth is to be found in those places. They may also learn that keeping the UK onside will mean forfeiting some of the rights it has taken as almost a divine given. But I’ll not hold my breath.
Meanwhile, Mrs NJ and I will be sharing another bottle of bubbly on 31st January, saving some of it to chink glasses as the clock strikes eleven. For us it marks the beginning of the end of a disastrous political experiment for the UK. It was an experiment which we vowed we would vote to reverse if ever given the chance. We were finally given that chance and we grabbed it.
// (my local Waitrose had almost run out of assorted alcoholic fizz by 10am).//
the woke word for champagne used by sundry rabid brexiteers - hold up mirror or read any 3T thread is - poo
you ran out of poo ....
hmm - bojoze "bang in a bob for a bong(*) on Brexit day" campaign seems to have gone bust - clerk of the commons wont accept any money for an overtly political cause ( bit technical for this thread)
I would say
some historian have reminded him of 1739 in Latin probably - they are ringing their bells soon they will be wringing their hands !
I note that todays exciting Brexit news showing what a success it all is
is that the economy shrank by 0.3% and the Drinks ( more poo! he shouts) industry says that instead of using money to sell cheaply they will be chasing regulations that no one had told them about ( = higher overheads for those that can add (up))
(*) bong - NOT bonk, no bonking not even for Boris - dirty boy!
the woke word for champagne used by sundry rabid brexiteers - hold up mirror or read any 3T thread is - poo
you ran out of poo ....
hmm - bojoze "bang in a bob for a bong(*) on Brexit day" campaign seems to have gone bust - clerk of the commons wont accept any money for an overtly political cause ( bit technical for this thread)
I would say
some historian have reminded him of 1739 in Latin probably - they are ringing their bells soon they will be wringing their hands !
I note that todays exciting Brexit news showing what a success it all is
is that the economy shrank by 0.3% and the Drinks ( more poo! he shouts) industry says that instead of using money to sell cheaply they will be chasing regulations that no one had told them about ( = higher overheads for those that can add (up))
(*) bong - NOT bonk, no bonking not even for Boris - dirty boy!
//you ran out of poo ....//
I rarely drink Champagne, Peter. Only if I'm provided with it at a function will I do so. I never buy it - in fact I rarely buy anything French if I can avoid it. I'm of the opinion that I've contributed more than enough to the French economy by way of my taxes and the Common Agricultural Policy.
I occasionally go for a Prosecco or Cava but I'm more inclined to go for one of the excellent New World fizzes these days.
I rarely drink Champagne, Peter. Only if I'm provided with it at a function will I do so. I never buy it - in fact I rarely buy anything French if I can avoid it. I'm of the opinion that I've contributed more than enough to the French economy by way of my taxes and the Common Agricultural Policy.
I occasionally go for a Prosecco or Cava but I'm more inclined to go for one of the excellent New World fizzes these days.
N.J.
Do try some Sekt (if you can get it in Blighty) - but maybe you don't buy German as well as French?
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Do try some Sekt (if you can get it in Blighty) - but maybe you don't buy German as well as French?
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//Why do we need an independence day? We didn't have one before we joined Europe in 1973.//
That's because before then we were an independent sovereign nation that could take its own decisions without asking permission from a bunch of foreign civil servants.
It's certainly true that the desire to leave the EU is more prevalent among older people. That's because those younger have grown up with the UK being a subservient province of Brussels/Strasbourg and think that falling in line with rules and legislation framed by a foreign institution is perfectly normal. Those wishing to see Jan 31st marked in some way will be those who have endured 47 years of that arrangement, watched it evolve into a supranational governmental organisation with pretensions of statehood and see it as in no way normal.
I don't believe an annual event is necessary - once we're rid of the meddling bureaucrats that's that. But a simple celebration this year would not go amiss.
That's because before then we were an independent sovereign nation that could take its own decisions without asking permission from a bunch of foreign civil servants.
It's certainly true that the desire to leave the EU is more prevalent among older people. That's because those younger have grown up with the UK being a subservient province of Brussels/Strasbourg and think that falling in line with rules and legislation framed by a foreign institution is perfectly normal. Those wishing to see Jan 31st marked in some way will be those who have endured 47 years of that arrangement, watched it evolve into a supranational governmental organisation with pretensions of statehood and see it as in no way normal.
I don't believe an annual event is necessary - once we're rid of the meddling bureaucrats that's that. But a simple celebration this year would not go amiss.
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