They Are Only Children.

[anotheoldgit]

I was once taken to task for suggesting that a cinema in the Middle East which was radicalising children and adults, by showing them executions etc. should be bombed.

They are only children was the cry, do these same persons still think the same after reading this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3344897/ISIS-child-soldiers-play-horrifying-Hide-seek-game-search-ruins-prisoners-shoot-head-latest-shocking-footage.html

[jourdain2]

Dreadful, but that is the result of what they are taught. In 1998-ish I was teaching modern History to a mainly Muslim (A-stream) class. One particularly loud-mouthed girl was provoked enough to argue when I was teaching about the concentration camps. If I recall her words correctly she said 'Miss, but we hate the Jews, they deserve all they got.' I was getting nowhere with her for the next couple of minutes, so swapped classes with someone next door who had visited Dachau that Summer. She gave them chapter and verse. When I returned, most of the class were almost vomiting, several in tears, and the girl in question said "Sorry, Miss, that shouldn't happen to anyone."

It took the passion of someone who had been there and seen the truth to bring home the reality. These children are children and learn what they are surrounded by and taught. The problem is that there isn't a 'Miss' to counter their indoctrination. We have to be prepared to kill children. Sorry, never thought I would take this attitude.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// I would suggest that the ISUS children are 'normal' within their own environment and experience. ///

Which of course is not at all 'NORMAL'

/// I absolutely agree that your family, and mine, would not consider that level of violence, but they have not been raised by fanatical murderers in a twelfth century feudal society, indoctrinated in hatred and bloodshed since before they could work - if they hav been, they may well be following the example set by the adults around them, as children do. ///

Precisely, that is why these children can never be classes as 'NORMAL' and therefore should be treated as a smaller version of the fanatical murderers they have become.

[Peter Pedant]

// The worst disaster of all was on December 12, 1944, when a V2 rocket hit the REX CINEMA in Antwerp killing 492 people, mostly British troops. Another 500 were injured. //

well they have done it before - bombed cinemas but not intentionally

In the Rexie they were all killed by blast injury ( popping lungs and heart and causing instant death ) and were found still in the positions of the last frame ( only dead )

[anotheoldgit]

ichkeria

/// There is a difference between shooting a child who is shooting at you, and dropping a bomb on a cinema full of children. ///

Yes there is, because if you fail to drop a bomb on that particular cinema, you will then not only get one child shooting at you, but will get a cinema full of indoctrinated children shooting at you.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// There is a fair bit of difference between shooting a dog and shooting a child as well!! ///

To be fair to divebuddy, he was not comparing a child to a dog, merely making a perfectly reasonable and acceptable analogy.

[andy-hughes]

AOG – making a unilateral decision that children are beyond being educated and taught a better way of life, that they are somehow less worth their lives because they have been corrupted through no fault of their own, has a name in history.

They called it The Final Solution.

Is that where our thinking, and our actions should be?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //To be fair to divebuddy, he was not comparing a child to a dog, merely making a perfectly reasonable and acceptable analogy.//

Divebuddy said - // It doesn't matter who is to blame for the child's radicalisation; it's too late for that child. A bit like rogue pit bulls in a way. It may be the owner who should be blamed but the dog has to be put down. //

I think you'll find that comparing a child to a dog is exactly what he was doing! It is an utterly unacceptable analogy.

Your desire to defend Divebuddy is understood, but sadly, he left you some indefensible material to work with!

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// AOG – making a unilateral decision that children are beyond being educated and taught a better way of life, that they are somehow less worth their lives because they have been corrupted through no fault of their own, has a name in history. ///

Why just children? Might just as well get all these murderers together and give them a damn good talking to, that would soon show them all the errors of their ways.