Interesting

[weecalf]

If a golfer moves the ball and does not admit he is lambasted ,if a snooker player moves the ball he admits it so the other player gains from the incident .So why can a footballer dive to get a penalty and not a word .

[bobbinwales]

If a player dives he can be booked if its spotted. If VAR endorse's a penalty then its judged to have been a penalty so diving isnt an issue

[DTCwordfan]

footballers keep their brains in their boots, perhaps....just as the police use their helmets.

[Buenchico]

If a player "attempts to deceive the referee e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)" he must be cautioned. See page 106:
https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/khhloe2xoigyna8juxw3.pdf

However a problem arises when a player is genuinely fouled but then 'makes a meal of it'.

As an example, two opposing players might be jumping together in the penalty area to head the ball. The defender gives the forward a very tiny nudge in the back, which would be just enough to knock him out of prime position to receive the incoming cross. The defender though is determined that the referee shouldn't miss the incident, so he throws himself forward onto the ground as if he's received a mighty shove (which he clearly hasn't). The referee then correctly awards a penalty (because of the tiny nudge to the forward's back) but the spectators all see it as 'diving'.

[That's written from the perspective of someone who's refereed hundreds of football matches. A lot of complaints about 'diving' actually only relate to a player, who has genuinely been fouled, deciding to 'make a meal of it', which isn't against the rules].

[10ClarionSt]

If a golfer moves a ball and doesn't own up, it depends if anyone witnessed him/her doing it. If it was witnessed, it wouldn't just be a lambasting; it could mean a suspension or expulsion from the club, which may mean that person would never be able to join another golf club. I can assure you, as a former golf club secretary, that the stigma attached would follow that person for ever. As the Great Bard said; To thine own self be true!

[10ClarionSt]

And of course it depends if the ball was moved intentionally.

[ToraToraTora]

do you have a specific incident in mind?

[10ClarionSt]

Are you asking me, TTT?

[DTCwordfan]

A friend of my parents was disqualified for this during a competition at the 'Mountain Goat' course - and he and his wife felt that they had to emigrate to Vancouver as a result, the shame, the ignominy, the stain.....especially as she came from an 'honourable' whisky family....

[Ellipsis]

Cheating in football? Surely not. The game is a bastion of integrity from the top down ...

[10ClarionSt]

If you ARE asking me, I could quote you several instances. However, there are other aspects of cheating that England Golf don't want anyone to know about and lately these things have been dealt with under the strictest confidence.

[ToraToraTora]

21:30 I am asking the OP.

[ToraToraTora]

weecalf, is there a specific incident of what in your opinion was a dive?

[10ClarionSt]

OK. Time for a cuppa. Night all!

[johnny.5]

and like when the ball goes into touch
the player knows damn well who touched it last but still claim the throw in or corner kick

[Ken4155]

I think the OP may be referring to an incident in the second half of England's friendly last night, when a Romanian fell to the floor as if he'd been hit by an Exocet missile. Slow-mo revealed he hadn't been touched. Don't know if there were any more incidents as i only watched about 10 mins of it.

[piggynose]

12.50 Ken, maybe friendly games should be renamed practice games, because theyre anything but friendly!

[THECORBYLOON]

Players can be suspended for simulation even if they weren't booked during the match, as detailed in this link.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN1DM27I

[THECORBYLOON]

https://www.sports.legal/2017/05/fa-introduces-new-offence-of-successful-deception-of-a-match-referee/

[Ken4155]

TCL, it 'can be' but very rarely is implemented. And it does no good to the team beaten and possibly relegated by a dodgy penalty decision.

[THECORBYLOON]

KEN, a team could be relegated due to a goal following an incorrectly awarded throw-in but mistakes are made.

It would be difficult to blame a relegation only on one error as opposed to the poor performance in the preceding matches.