Can Any Of The Ab Bible Quoters Help Me?

[Atheist]

I have a vague memory of Biblical quotes wherein Jehovah exhorts his chosen people to smite the Midianites and to destroy them and their cattle and their children and to spare only the women who please them so that they may do with them as they see fit.
I hope my memory is playing me false. Perhaps someone with more Biblical knowledge can put me right?

[pixie374]

Khandro- no hurry at all. The truth- late, is certainly more valuable than random guesses.
Everyone is officially "agnostic", as nobody genuinely knows. But some prefer evidence to believe something, and others prefer to believe something and then try to find the evidence.

[naomi24]

Khandro, I asked you a question the other day which remains unanswered. What did Dawkins say that leads you to believe he’s a clown - and what evidence do you have to support your conclusion?

As for waiting for evidence of the existence of God …. unless you produce the goods, as I expect you to, I suspect the world will wait forever.

[Khandro]

Do you need some form of 'evidence' to prove you love someone?

[SparklyKid]

Love is an emotion. Belief in some sort of god is a delusion.

[naomi24]

Pixie, //Everyone is officially "agnostic",//

Not so. The potential existence of supernatural gods isn’t a consideration for me. In the absence of any evidence whatsoever I’ve long rejected the notion.

By the way, although some tend to think of an agnostic as a ‘don’t know’, the word actually means a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God - so it would be more accurate really to say an agnostic is a believer.

Khandro, and still no answer. No surprise.

[pixie374]

What does that mean, khandro? Personally- no. But for someone I have never had any communication with, whatsoever.... a very definite yes.

[pixie374]

It doesn't, naomi. "Agnostic" means "without knowing" - and frankly, no human in the world had ever completely "known". So we are all agnostic.
From my pov, I'm an atheist- as I don't believe in God. However- I would change my mind, if it was ever proved otherwise.
Tbh, after thousands of years of genuine attempts- nobody has ever managed to prove anything yet, and I doubt they ever will.

[naomi24]

Shrug. Look it up.

[Atheist]

Naomi ; "the word actually means a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God - so it would be more accurate really to say an agnostic is a believer."
To say that an agnostic is a believer is likely to mislead a believer in god to think that an agnostic is just as bad or good or valid as he or she is. I could say that you believe that your above statement is true, but it would be rather silly to call you a believer. I think that the word believe implies what we would call faith; I don't think you can equate faith in god (or unicorns or fairies etc) as being as sensible as provisional belief in stuff which is supported by a lot of evidence but which is a belief quite open to change if more evidence is provided.

[pixie374]

Who is that to? Look what up? If it was to me, I'm English and did Latin. I know what the words mean.

[pixie374]

An agnostic isn't a believer. It means "without knowing" and covers everyone who has ever lived. Meaningless.

[naomi24]

Atheist, it follows that if one concludes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God, the existence of God must be a consideration.

[pixie374]

Out of interest, I looked it up. "Neither believes or disbelieves".
A non-believer.

[Atheist]

Naomi, replace the word 'God' with the word 'Biggles'.

[Deskdiary]

Disagree Pixie.

I'm not agnostic; I know, without even the merest scintilla of doubt, there is no god. As far as I'm concerned, I know there is no god because the very premise is so absurd that it is laughable.

There is an equal amount of proof of god as there is of leprachauns - none; yet if I swore blind faith in leprachauns, I'd be carted off to the looney-bin (although, of course, there's an argument, I've just made up that, people who believe in god voluntarily go to a looney bin every week for an hour or so on a Sunday!

[Atheist]

Well, we've got a long way from the poor Midianites!

[naomi24]

Atheist, why?

[pixie374]

Totally agree, DD. I'm exactly the same. However, I have no "proof". I am an atheist- absolutely no belief whatsoever. But- I admit I would change my mind if any were forthcoming. Will never happen- but if. Agnostic means nothing.

[Atheist]

Naomi, it shows that the point about God being a consideration is pointless.

[pixie374]

God is not a "consideration". People either believe it, or they don't.