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We Are Living In The Prophetic End Times.
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The bible is true.
Atheists, or rather Hatetheists, refuse to recognise thedd signs of the times, which are comprehensively described in the bible, which is accurate.
Stubbornness prevents the Hatetheists from recognising the truth.
Covid is but one aspect, but is like the first domino to fall, the rest will crash soon.
You can check what the bible says yourself, and compare it to contemporary events.
Time is getting short, things will never be the same again.
Will you take notice?
Atheists, or rather Hatetheists, refuse to recognise thedd signs of the times, which are comprehensively described in the bible, which is accurate.
Stubbornness prevents the Hatetheists from recognising the truth.
Covid is but one aspect, but is like the first domino to fall, the rest will crash soon.
You can check what the bible says yourself, and compare it to contemporary events.
Time is getting short, things will never be the same again.
Will you take notice?
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Can you please just tell me where in the bible ? Chapter and verse Remember the bible is a very large book (I have sitting here on my desk ~ at the ready ~ so to speak) by the way I am not an atheist, I practise my faith and read the bible but for the life of me I cannot remember reading anything ~ and I have been reading for well over 70 years. God Bless ~ keep safe
16:48 Fri 09th Oct 2020
In reply to your question @12.41..... The answer is Yes, along with a squirrel, foxes and numerous different species of birds.
However, once again you have avoided a definite answer to what I had posted. Furthermore I don't know what banter to which you made reference.
Please read again what I posted and reply more appropriately, along with the proof for which I am still waiting, as regards the existence of God and all the Bible being factual.
Hans.
However, once again you have avoided a definite answer to what I had posted. Furthermore I don't know what banter to which you made reference.
Please read again what I posted and reply more appropriately, along with the proof for which I am still waiting, as regards the existence of God and all the Bible being factual.
Hans.
// //God has given us evidence to prove His word is true. //
No he hasn't.
.... is all in John 5 - conversation with leddy at well at Sychar
my translation: I will give you the water of life to drink - Leddy: "what you mean by dat den? foo !" " crezzy man, ay dont know ay really dont! go to draw water and get a sermon!" - because she did not know what he meant. The disciples returned and wondered why he was talking t a Samaritan
No he hasn't.
.... is all in John 5 - conversation with leddy at well at Sychar
my translation: I will give you the water of life to drink - Leddy: "what you mean by dat den? foo !" " crezzy man, ay dont know ay really dont! go to draw water and get a sermon!" - because she did not know what he meant. The disciples returned and wondered why he was talking t a Samaritan
Theland..... I am no longer // an honest sceptic seeking God, or a trivia chasing cynic looking to criticality for fun? //
If only you had listened and mentally taken in all that I have said to you, such a question would Not be asked by you.
I have told you that I was educated in a Religious school and found it difficult to believe the Evangelical teachings but in search of truth I became a member at different chapels and churches to seek God; even serving two three terms on a church committee. However, I became completely disillusioned when I discovered that prayer didn't work and there were so many people of the clergy who were behaving falsely; even to the point of being criminal.
Consequently, whilst you may feel you are doing Gods work, you should seriously stop and think if the person in which you have faith really does exist. I know you keep saying you give proof of God but I am yet to hear of any positive scientific evidence from you, but you keep asking atheists to give you such proof that there isn't a super power of three-in-one.
Hans.
Hans.
If only you had listened and mentally taken in all that I have said to you, such a question would Not be asked by you.
I have told you that I was educated in a Religious school and found it difficult to believe the Evangelical teachings but in search of truth I became a member at different chapels and churches to seek God; even serving two three terms on a church committee. However, I became completely disillusioned when I discovered that prayer didn't work and there were so many people of the clergy who were behaving falsely; even to the point of being criminal.
Consequently, whilst you may feel you are doing Gods work, you should seriously stop and think if the person in which you have faith really does exist. I know you keep saying you give proof of God but I am yet to hear of any positive scientific evidence from you, but you keep asking atheists to give you such proof that there isn't a super power of three-in-one.
Hans.
Hans.
Theland, who are these trivia chasing cynics looking to criticise for fun?
//dismissing scholarship dating back hundreds of years, archaeology, history, and science.//
No one dismisses anything that comes with supporting evidence. If you insist on quoting stuff that carries no authenticity you can expect it to be dismissed.
//dismissing scholarship dating back hundreds of years, archaeology, history, and science.//
No one dismisses anything that comes with supporting evidence. If you insist on quoting stuff that carries no authenticity you can expect it to be dismissed.
Hans, why do I believe?
Science failed to give me definitive answers to the big questions.
The bible CLAIMED to have the answers, and if true, made sense to me, explaining good and evil, objective morality, our fallen nature, and hope for justice, and mercy for our wrongs, in the person of Jesus Christ.
Yes, I looked at various religions and found them all wanting.
But could I trust the bible?
So to prophecy.
A brief post won't do the subject justice, but the history of Israel and the Jews, Gods promises and warnings to His chosen people did it for me.
The accuracy is incredible, and is completely overlooked, (as far as I am aware), by the mainstream churches and the theological academics who run them. (Think of Rowan Williams).
The prophecies run true right up to our present time, I am so convinced. (Yes all of these points raise more questions I know).
Regarding the big questions, the universe, a biogenesis and evolution, the bible accounts have never been superseded by science, in my opinion.
Finally, having searched and become a Christian, I became quickly disillusioned with churches, but I know the changes it has made to me personally, and I feel a presence within me that cannot be denied, a comforter, as Christ promised, that is as real to me as anything else I dare call reality.
I know this is a very brief and incomplete account, and you will probably not find me convincing, but as this is a discussion, I hope my views and experiences are worth your consideration.
As for clergymen taking advantage of their position for questionable, even criminal motives, the message remains the same, even if used criminally, like the money preachers and sexual predators.
Science failed to give me definitive answers to the big questions.
The bible CLAIMED to have the answers, and if true, made sense to me, explaining good and evil, objective morality, our fallen nature, and hope for justice, and mercy for our wrongs, in the person of Jesus Christ.
Yes, I looked at various religions and found them all wanting.
But could I trust the bible?
So to prophecy.
A brief post won't do the subject justice, but the history of Israel and the Jews, Gods promises and warnings to His chosen people did it for me.
The accuracy is incredible, and is completely overlooked, (as far as I am aware), by the mainstream churches and the theological academics who run them. (Think of Rowan Williams).
The prophecies run true right up to our present time, I am so convinced. (Yes all of these points raise more questions I know).
Regarding the big questions, the universe, a biogenesis and evolution, the bible accounts have never been superseded by science, in my opinion.
Finally, having searched and become a Christian, I became quickly disillusioned with churches, but I know the changes it has made to me personally, and I feel a presence within me that cannot be denied, a comforter, as Christ promised, that is as real to me as anything else I dare call reality.
I know this is a very brief and incomplete account, and you will probably not find me convincing, but as this is a discussion, I hope my views and experiences are worth your consideration.
As for clergymen taking advantage of their position for questionable, even criminal motives, the message remains the same, even if used criminally, like the money preachers and sexual predators.
Naomi doesn't need proof Theland - she doesn't start threads with statements like 'The Bible is not true...'.
You are the master of the sweeping unproven nonsense, so as I have said before, and naturally been ignored by you, the burden of proof rests with you, because you are the one who wants everyone to believe what you believe.
Naomi probably couldn't care less if you don't believe what she doesn't believe.
Like I said, the burden of proof rests with you.
Personally, I couldn't care less that you can't prove your position - just annoyed that you can't admit it.
You are the master of the sweeping unproven nonsense, so as I have said before, and naturally been ignored by you, the burden of proof rests with you, because you are the one who wants everyone to believe what you believe.
Naomi probably couldn't care less if you don't believe what she doesn't believe.
Like I said, the burden of proof rests with you.
Personally, I couldn't care less that you can't prove your position - just annoyed that you can't admit it.
Theland - // Andy - Naomi made unsupported assertions dismissing my evidence.
I asked her to reference it.
Anything wrong with that? //
Yes there is.
As usual, you have ignored my post, so I'll repeat the gist - again -
Naomi doesn't need to 'prove her assertions' - she isn't the one making the claims day in day out., she merely takes issue with yours.
As with the legal system - if you bring the case, you have to prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt. No-one else has to prove anything.
It's you who comes on day in day out with your nonsensical OP's, and then slithers away from the fact that you have no evidence, much less proof, that your God exists.
Yet again - the atheists on here don't have to prove their absence of faith, because it can't be proved that something does not exist, and they don't care if you accept that or not.
The fervents on here are the ones who want to win people over to their premise, but they, and you are one of them, reman utterly unable to do so because all they can offer is conjecture and coincidence.
Has it not dawned on you yet that this is the wrong platform for you?
Apart from your fellow fervents, there is maybe one or two believers who add their belief to your threads.
And a mass of atheists who simply want you to back up what you say with something a little more substantial that 'because the Bible says so ...' and get cross because you cannot do that, and will not simply admit it.
You will get no converts here, no-one who actually believes what you say, and a whole mass of people who don't believe what you say, and argue with you all day every day, and a whole lot more who don't care and don't bother to post.
Your horse is dead - stop flogging it for heaven's sake (pun intended).
I asked her to reference it.
Anything wrong with that? //
Yes there is.
As usual, you have ignored my post, so I'll repeat the gist - again -
Naomi doesn't need to 'prove her assertions' - she isn't the one making the claims day in day out., she merely takes issue with yours.
As with the legal system - if you bring the case, you have to prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt. No-one else has to prove anything.
It's you who comes on day in day out with your nonsensical OP's, and then slithers away from the fact that you have no evidence, much less proof, that your God exists.
Yet again - the atheists on here don't have to prove their absence of faith, because it can't be proved that something does not exist, and they don't care if you accept that or not.
The fervents on here are the ones who want to win people over to their premise, but they, and you are one of them, reman utterly unable to do so because all they can offer is conjecture and coincidence.
Has it not dawned on you yet that this is the wrong platform for you?
Apart from your fellow fervents, there is maybe one or two believers who add their belief to your threads.
And a mass of atheists who simply want you to back up what you say with something a little more substantial that 'because the Bible says so ...' and get cross because you cannot do that, and will not simply admit it.
You will get no converts here, no-one who actually believes what you say, and a whole mass of people who don't believe what you say, and argue with you all day every day, and a whole lot more who don't care and don't bother to post.
Your horse is dead - stop flogging it for heaven's sake (pun intended).
Andy, keep your wig on!
If you paid attention, you would have found that Naomi told me that bible prophecies were written after the fact.
Now that you are enjoying your courtroom drama, let me remind you that this was supposed to be a discussion, not a forensic analysis with somebody being found guilty!
Your tone is decidedly insulting so leave it at that.
Enjoy the rest of your evening.
I can't be bothered responding to you.
If you paid attention, you would have found that Naomi told me that bible prophecies were written after the fact.
Now that you are enjoying your courtroom drama, let me remind you that this was supposed to be a discussion, not a forensic analysis with somebody being found guilty!
Your tone is decidedly insulting so leave it at that.
Enjoy the rest of your evening.
I can't be bothered responding to you.
Theland, //The four canonicals were probably written between AD 66 and 110. All four were anonymous (the modern names were added in the 2nd century), almost certainly none were by eyewitnesses, and all are the end-products of long oral and written transmission//
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