Origin Of Information.

[Theland]

I believe all information originates in a mind.
If you disagree with this, any examples?

[Theland]

Wolf - Yes and ?
To arrange them in any meaningful way requires a mind. That's all I'm saying.

[Khandro]

Buddhism teaches, everything begins with mind.

[pixie374]

It requires a mind to make them "meaningful" to another mind. I think that goes without saying?

[vulcan42]

Any information was there before it was perceived by a mind,the mind received it and processed it but that information did not start in the mind.

[andres]

It needs a brain already stored with the information that is then passed into the mind. Our brains govern everything .

[pixie374]

Except the things they don't know lol.

[Khandro]

The Mind Only philosophy has its origin in the earliest tradition of Buddhism. The Buddha declared that mind is the creator of all things and referred to the luminous and pure nature of consciousness.

[pixie374]

Clearly not accurate, though, khandro. However lovely it sounds.

[Theland]

Without the mind, nothing physical of any meaning happens.

[pixie374]

Of any meaning to whom? Other people?

[Zacs-Master]

‘I believe all information originates in a mind’

‘That information is not self generated‘

Are those two statements not completely self contradicting?

[woofgang]

define meaning

[Theland]

Zacs - remove your trip wires.
Yes ALL information originates in a mind.

[Theland]

Meaning? Purpose.

[pixie374]

It doesn't originate there theland. It is processed there. Have you done any biology recently?

[Zacs-Master]

But if it’s in the mind it has to be ‘self’ generated. If not who is the ‘self’?

The only trip wires are the ones in your own attempt to reason things out.

[pixie374]

When God said "let there be light" or whatever.... was he lying because there was nobody there to see it? Does God have a mind?

[Theland]

God IS Mind. Spirit. Uncaused first cause.

[pixie374]

Where is your proof of this, theland? It seems such a (literally) fantastic presumption. How have you got to this conclusion and decided not to look any further?

[Theland]

Zacs - Exactly! The mind self generates thought - Iinformation.