The More I Learn About The Bible, The More Amazed I Am.

[Theland]

Atheists read the Bible and find plenty to criticise it.
However it so cleverly written, that there are levels of understanding at so many levels in even the most simple texts.
Many texts have been misunderstood for years until contemporary events have unlocked them.
This is worth more than instant dismissal by atheists.
Open minds?
Evidence?
We have an Internet capable of satisfying all of our enquirers.
Give it a go?

[Peter Pedant]

// God does not keep secrets. That is the truth//

well Daniel 12 4 one of the verses under discussion:

But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Dan 12 4

and the whole point of that - is the use of allegory and hidden meaning - the commentators say - within the book of Daniel and not particularly within the revealed world

"The words are meant to explain why the visions in the book, though communicated to Daniel, were not made generally known until the time of the persecution. Cf. on Daniel 8:26; and contrast Revelation 22:10."
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/daniel/12-4.htm

so there are secrets which are to be revealed
and ergo God keeps secrets - and that is the truth done for. see above
( I like - and the truth will make you free)

I mean Jesus does anyone read what they have written ?
( thx to retrocop who clearly doesnt)

as someone said earlier - is the whole bible, prophecy revealed and ..... prophecy yet to be revealed ?

[nailit]

//Atheists read the Bible and find plenty to criticise it//
Not without reason.

//However it so cleverly written, that there are levels of understanding at so many levels in even the most simple texts//
Some examples would be appreciated.

//Many texts have been misunderstood for years until contemporary events have unlocked them//
Some examples would be appreciated.

//This is worth more than instant dismissal by atheists//
Indeed. Any examples??

//Open minds?
Evidence?//
Yes, that would be cool.
Any examples?

//We have an Internet capable of satisfying all of our enquirers//
We do! We have an internet that supplies evidence of Sasquach, alien abduction, flat Earth, Pixies and fairies, the Koran, Vedas, Buddhism, Heavens Gate or whatever else...

//Give it a go? //
I did....

[nailit]

Prophecies, seen in retrospect, are not prophecies.
Biblical prophecies are no more relevant to us than are the prophecies of Nostradamus.

[Theland]

Not so, there is linear which we expect, and cyclical, and others ( will swat up on the names.)
We need to remember the Bible was written by Jews, for Jews.
We are mistaken if we impress our Western European values and experiences on such scriptures.

[Theland]

I might study those and come back as a," Unicornist," or a student of fairies and pixies and Big Issue Sellers.
A journey we could make together?

[Theland]

Things written in prophecy sometimes don't reveal themselves until contemporary events suddenly appear congruent with what has been written.
The creation of Israel in 1948 suddenly illuminated many prophecies. And there are more.

[nailit]

//Not so, there is linear which we expect, and cyclical, and others//
Silly me! Trying to make things fit....

[Theland]

Not silly at all. Just need to learn about the subject.

[naomi24]

//The creation of Israel in 1948 suddenly illuminated many prophecies. //

Indeed ... and the holocaust was just part of a loving and just God's plan to bring prophecy to fruition. You couldn't make it up ... but those intent on making it up could.

[Theland]

For somebody who once explained their book collection on religion, philosophy, and science, I would expect less conceited pride and more acceptance of the possibilities.
Pride can blind.

[Theland]

God did not cause the Holocaust, men with free will did.

[10ClarionSt]

The bible's just a book, innit? The Hobbit is a book. War and Peace. Just books. Some would say, boring books.

[Theland]

Nailit - For somebody who claims to have read the Bible cover to cover, (I don't doubt that you did), it is obvious to me that you missed the fact that almost a third of the Bible is prophecy, and your lack of commentary on this fact leads me to believe that you have hardly comprehended anything you have read.
I think quality of your study, not quantity would be enlightening.

[naomi24]

Theland, //God did not cause the Holocaust, men with free will did.//

But you said only a few days ago that it was all part of God’s plan to bring prophecy to fruition. Make your mind up.

As for conceited pride, there’s none more conceited or more proud than those who claim to know the mind and purpose of something for which there is not an iota of verifiable evidence.

[naomi24]

Theland, as for prophecy, I have a problem with your inability to explain those that have clearly failed, predominately that predicted by Jesus himself when he promised that the end of times would occur during his disciples’ lifetime. Jesus of all people should have known what he was talking about. No?

[Theland]

"Not one iota.. " Your post is ridiculous.

[naomi24]

Why is it ridiculous? Where is your verifiable evidence for the existence of this God?

[nailit]

// it is obvious to me that you missed the fact that almost a third of the Bible is prophecy//
No its not.

//your lack of commentary on this fact//
Its not a fact

//leads me to believe that you have hardly comprehended anything you have read//
Unlike some who HAVNT read it then?

//I think quality of your study, not quantity would be enlightening//
It would indeed. Try it sometime without the religious goggles on.

[Khandro]

//The More I Learn About The Bible, The More Amazed I Am.//

Me too!

[Peter Pedant]

Theland did you ever find that State Pension calculator you were looking for in the Book of Daniel ?