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Is Islam Fairly Represented In The Media

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nailit | 19:00 Sun 29th Oct 2017 | Religion & Spirituality
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I despise Islam like I despise all organized religion, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe everything that the media portrays about a particular subject. (an example being that prisons are holiday camps...far from it)
Ive worked with muslims and while I find their beliefs ridiculous (just like I find the beliefs of Christians ridiculous) I couldn't fault them as people, in fact Ive found born again evangelicals much less easier to get on with.
Isnt it a similar thing to portraying all Catholic priests as kiddie fiddlers when clearly they arnt?
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Keyplus - “... perhaps you know but purposly are trying to twist the words [of the Koran]”

Hello old chum. Still lying through your teeth I see.
Plus ça change as we say up-north.
taqiyyah double plus.
VE - “... Christian terrorism is a cottage industry while Islamic terrorism is a global brand.”

Glad to see you're still patronising this august site of Q&A, debate and discussion. As you may or may not have noticed, I have taken a long break from this forum. Not for any particular reason other than I became bored with it. I tired of going over and over the same discussion points with people who seem impervious to rational debate and who openly lie in order to preserve their own illogical, immoral and insidious ideology.

I see nothing has changed. The same people are still playing the, “you're taking the texts out of context” shtick. This, despite countless appeals over many years for them to actually try and explain how such odious pronouncements could, in any way, be put into some context where they would suddenly become virtuous as opposed to vile.

Keep up the good work my friend.
Naomi & Mibs

Hello you two. Glad you're still fighting the good fight.
The professional liars don't bother me, Birdie. To be honest they are advancing their cause using all the methods prescribed by their odious faith. ("All is the greatest of deceivers" - 5:34?). I hate them, but they have my grudging respect.

What disappoints and frustrates me is the refusal of many posters (usually quite smart and well-informed, and certainly, I'm sure, well-intentioned) to consider that the correlation between Islam and terror needs an explanation better than mental illness, or on-line radicalisation, or whatever today's limp-wristed excuse is, and that such an explanation might be found in the ideology of Islam and the doctrine of jihad.

How is this? Why so incurious? Are they ignorant of fourteen centuries of history?
"Allah is the greatest of deceivers".

Sorry about the typo.

And, yes, they're proud of it.

Christians (these days a genuine "marginalised", "demonised" minority) call the "Father of lies" Satan.

Allah/Shaitan? Shaitan/Allah? Flip the coin.
VE - “... What disappoints and frustrates me is the refusal of many posters (usually quite smart and well-informed, and certainly, I'm sure, well-intentioned) to consider that the correlation between Islam and terror...”


Agreed.

It never ceases to amaze me how people cannot see the incontrovertible link between the Islamic texts and Islamic terrorism. The texts of the Koran are replete with violence mandated against the non-believer. There are 100+ verses in the Koran where muslims are instructed specifically to kill the non-muslims. Over one hundred! And people still try and say that Islam is the religion of peace....

It would be hilarious if it weren't so serious.
keyplus90 knows in his heart..maybe, that all that is written is not true, as the bible.. best to leave as it as it should be, comments from mad men that have 0 relevance in the 21 century, we are on the high road..but we look back from where we came, travel light with no baggage.
Hello Birdie, Good to see you.
oh I get quran 5 - 34 ( Al maidiah) to be

Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

is this an example of taqqiyah we hear so much about ?
have never read the Quran or much of the Bible, but I am aware that the Quran says kill the non-believers.

Lovely.

Shame the Quran doesn't state how to tell a believer from a non-believer.
(or does it, please help if I've missed something, thanks)
Al Imran - Sura 3:54.

I get very confused you know.
It'll be subtle Alba, a bit like the masonic handshake.
The first pillar of Islam defines the core belief which defines a Muslim (and by implication a on-believer), Albaqwerty:

“There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger”.
Hi Keyplus.

I would be very grateful if you could expand upon the comment you made on 31st October 2017 at 21:30 where you stated -

“/// Mohammed said "Kill [the unbelievers] wherever you find them"////
So no muslim acting upon it has found you yet? Or is it that they know the meanings and most importantly "cotext" and you do not. Or perhaps you know but purposly are trying to twist the words.”

I would very much appreciate it if you could explain to me and others how this Quranic text (2:191-193) has been taken out of context. Please can you put it into context for me? I have read the preceding verses and also the subsequent ones and I cannot see any other legitimate interpretation of the aforementioned quote that would invalidate the apparent violent intolerance that appears in this passage.

This website may aid you:
https://quran.com/2/181-191

It helpfully allows you to easily skip forwards and backwards through the Quranic texts to really get a handle on the “context”. Use it if you like but clearly feel free to use other sources to support your argument.

Thank you.
I advised you and Naomi a long time ago to ignore the liar, Birdie. He feeds on this attention.
VE

I know. However, after all this time I want to give Keyplus the benefit of the doubt. After all, he is AB's ambassador for the religion of peace. Let him speak.
Nailit, do you have face to face communication with female muslims.
V_E, //I advised you and Naomi a long time ago to ignore the liar, Birdie. He feeds on this attention.//

He also skedaddles off pretty swiftly when unable to counter verifiable challenges. Ignoring him gives him free rein to mislead, and therefore, from my point of view, is not the wisest course of action.
My little Birdie, I will answer all of your questions when I will see you. I do not want to waste my time on "known time wasters". People who are here just for the sake of it and are only confined to the replies or answers they want to read.

So are you willing to come and talk to me face to face and p[rove what you know? Time, place, and people of your choice? And on that day either I will become atheist or you think about your future. Are you willing? Or else just wait until we are all no more. I am willing to wait, are you?

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