Ancient Alien Astronaughts

[nailit]

After reading Theland's thread below (who or what created the universe) and the debate that developed between Naomi and others regarding ancient aliens visiting Earth, I thought that it may deserve a thread of its own.
I read von Daniken's books as a teenager and later found out that much of what he wrote was fabricated. *BUT* there have been other authors who have had the same ideas without Danikens fancies.
Myself, I'm open minded about it all, but still a fascinating subject to discuss.

[naomi24]

Khandro, you have to remember who made these images – the largest of which are over 1000ft long. They weren’t modern day engineers.

[Khandro]

naomi; //you have to remember who made these images – the largest of which are over 1000ft long. They weren’t modern day engineers.//

That is less than the length of 3 football pitches. The sensationalists would have us to believe that these things stretch for miles.

[naomi24]

Khandro, I can't recall anyone saying that any one representation stretches for miles but the area over which they're spread certainly stretches for very many miles. That said, I don't really know why this particular conversation is relevant to the OP.

[nailit]

//That said, I don't really know why this particular conversation is relevant to the OP. //
Me neither Naomi, but AB has never been any different...

[naomi24]

It would be a shame if it goes off course.

[nailit]

Religious believers...like poloticians...have a way of derailing and diverting a question..

[naomi24]

:o)

[nailit]

I read Khandros post earlier and really searched my memory, I could not recall anyone stating that the Nazca lines stretched for miles (and I read a lot of books in my youth about these)
Derailing and diverting....

[naomi24]

Some of the straight lines stretch for very many miles - but the images don't cover that sort of distance.

[jim360]

Aren't the Nazca Lines often brought up as one piece of possible evidence for aliens having visited Earth at some point?

I'd readily accept that, on its own, refuting a possible link (or at any rate seriously calling it into question) between Nazca and alien astronauts would leave the overall question still open. But still, it seems relevant all the same -- If nothing else because proving things the other way round, ie that it was impossible for the Nazca lines to have any other origin or inspiration than real alien visitors, would be decisive all on its own.

But anyway. I tend to believe that (a) there is almost certainly life out there*, but (b) it's unlikely that we'll prove this any time soon. Not in my lifetime. I'd love to be wrong about this!**

We'll see. Doesn't hurt to keep believing, as long as you do so with due scepticism.



*But maybe not intelligent life of the form you'd require for alien visitors. It's a huge research question in itself whether complex life is a remarkable stroke of luck, or the inevitable result of chemistry.

**An often-lost aspect of actual scientific work is that a great many scientists actively spend their time doing research that they seriously want to be wrong. It would be boring if they were right all the time, anyway. But mainly science progresses by recognising where it's deficient rather a lot better than by where it's successful.

[naomi24]

Jim, the lines are potentially relevant to the theory, but an on-going discussion on scale is utterly superfluous.

//Doesn't hurt to keep believing, as long as you do so with due scepticism.//

‘Believing’ isn’t the issue. Looking for and examining potential evidence is.

//But mainly science progresses by recognising where it's deficient//

Personally I think science is utterly deficient in this area – but it's yet to recognise that.

[jim360]

Personally I think my judgement of where science is deficient is rather better-informed than yours is.

[naomi24]

Jim, You think so? I take it you know better than me how much serious scientific research has gone into this then?

[naomi24]

Well, time's moving on so I'm guessing that's a 'no' then.

Time for bed. Night all. x

[Theland]

The evidence for aliens is at best a big stretch of the imagination. As for the Nasca lines, why didn't they Tarmac them? And would they not have VTOL craft?

[naomi24]

Theland, //The evidence for aliens is at best a big stretch of the imagination.//

Coming from one who thinks the God of the bible is the almighty creator, I couldn't have made your statement up!

[Theland]

Ah yes the put down. Thanks for that.
But isn't. It true that you begin with a conclusion and then use bargain basement evidence to support it?

[naomi24]

Not sure what you mean, Theland. You can begin with the conclusion that something created the universe if you like but it doesn't follow that you know what it was. That's where I come up against a immoveable brick wall with your argument. You don't - and can't - know. No one knows.

[naomi24]

Actually, this thread isn't about the creation of the universe. We're moving off track again.

[Khandro]

naomi; Perhaps you should call "Order!" and tell us what this thread is really about, damned if I know.