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Tithing
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According to the holy bible tithing is a spiritual law encouraging one to give a portion of their earned income. Practicing this habit helps one find abundance, fulfillment, and gratitude in their everyday lives.
When a person tithes, the universe that works under the spiritual law of tithing says - 'if you have that much to give, then you are open to receive more'. As we fulfill our part of the covenant by giving, then God fulfills his part by continually blessing us.
What is your opinion on tithing?
When a person tithes, the universe that works under the spiritual law of tithing says - 'if you have that much to give, then you are open to receive more'. As we fulfill our part of the covenant by giving, then God fulfills his part by continually blessing us.
What is your opinion on tithing?
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Most scholars that I am aware of believe there were three separate tithes given every three years, although a few believe the 3-year tithe took the place of the second tithe.
THE FIRST TITHE
Leviticus 27:30-33 defines this tithe as a tenth of crops and animals in herds and flocks.
Numbers 18 gives the ordinances, or instructions, for this tithe, and commands this tithe be taken to the Levites.
Purpose of this tithe: to support the Levitical Priesthood.
SECOND TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:22-27: aka The Festival Tithe - a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take to the yearly feasts.
Purpose of this tithe: “that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always”
THIRD TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:28-29: aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe - a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to eat.
Purpose of this tithe: to feed the poor.
It is important to understand that the Biblical tithe never came from income. It always came from assets (crops and animals). The farmers made their income by selling and/or barter exchanging their crops and animals but did not tithe from their income. Wage earners did not tithe.
The first tithe was NOT brought to the Temple. It was taken to the Levites who lived in the Levitical cities.
Nehemiah 10:37-38 (KJV)
37And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
38And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.
In Nehemiah 10:37 we learn that the firstfruits were taken to the temple for the priests, and the tithes were taken to the Levites who lived in the Levitical cities. Therefore, we see that firstfruits have nothing to do with the tithe.
In Nehemiah 10:38 we learn that the Levites would take a tithe of the tithe to the Temple. It is this tithe, the tithe from the Levites, that went to the storehouse, not the tithe from the people. This is important to remember when we study Malachi 3:10.
Most scholars that I am aware of believe there were three separate tithes given every three years, although a few believe the 3-year tithe took the place of the second tithe.
THE FIRST TITHE
Leviticus 27:30-33 defines this tithe as a tenth of crops and animals in herds and flocks.
Numbers 18 gives the ordinances, or instructions, for this tithe, and commands this tithe be taken to the Levites.
Purpose of this tithe: to support the Levitical Priesthood.
SECOND TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:22-27: aka The Festival Tithe - a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take to the yearly feasts.
Purpose of this tithe: “that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always”
THIRD TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:28-29: aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe - a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to eat.
Purpose of this tithe: to feed the poor.
It is important to understand that the Biblical tithe never came from income. It always came from assets (crops and animals). The farmers made their income by selling and/or barter exchanging their crops and animals but did not tithe from their income. Wage earners did not tithe.
The first tithe was NOT brought to the Temple. It was taken to the Levites who lived in the Levitical cities.
Nehemiah 10:37-38 (KJV)
37And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
38And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.
In Nehemiah 10:37 we learn that the firstfruits were taken to the temple for the priests, and the tithes were taken to the Levites who lived in the Levitical cities. Therefore, we see that firstfruits have nothing to do with the tithe.
In Nehemiah 10:38 we learn that the Levites would take a tithe of the tithe to the Temple. It is this tithe, the tithe from the Levites, that went to the storehouse, not the tithe from the people. This is important to remember when we study Malachi 3:10.
GaryArnold [GA]- “... [birdie] do you know the difference between the present tense and the past tense?...”
Yes I do. The tense of your argument has no bearing on this matter. Also, I know the difference between the logical and illogical.
GA - “... Please read what I wrote before making a comment which shows your inability to understand the English language...”
I've understood you completely. I have no problem with comprehension nor the English language.
GA - “... I never said the OT scriptures were invalid. I said that those of us subject to the New Testament are not subject to the laws given in the Old Testament. You seem to have a comprehension problem; thus, your wasted comments...”
I agree that you never said that the OT scriptures were invalid – that was an incorrect extrapolation on my part. What you actually said was that the OT 'laws' should be 'ignored'. That's the point. You've taken an inordinate amount of time and effort to justify your position by specifically quoting verbatim the OT 'laws'. You then claim that the very 'laws' upon which you base your primary argument should be 'ignored' by you born-agains.
I put it to you that it is not I who has a problem with comprehension – it is you. I would also add that you also appear to have a problem with logic and its progression.
Yes I do. The tense of your argument has no bearing on this matter. Also, I know the difference between the logical and illogical.
GA - “... Please read what I wrote before making a comment which shows your inability to understand the English language...”
I've understood you completely. I have no problem with comprehension nor the English language.
GA - “... I never said the OT scriptures were invalid. I said that those of us subject to the New Testament are not subject to the laws given in the Old Testament. You seem to have a comprehension problem; thus, your wasted comments...”
I agree that you never said that the OT scriptures were invalid – that was an incorrect extrapolation on my part. What you actually said was that the OT 'laws' should be 'ignored'. That's the point. You've taken an inordinate amount of time and effort to justify your position by specifically quoting verbatim the OT 'laws'. You then claim that the very 'laws' upon which you base your primary argument should be 'ignored' by you born-agains.
I put it to you that it is not I who has a problem with comprehension – it is you. I would also add that you also appear to have a problem with logic and its progression.
@FredPuli43 - I have very much achieved my purpose for joining this forum. I have given the actual OT scriptures to show exactly what the three tithes were that were commanded by God, and I have given scripture to show the OT laws were disannulled. Others on this forum seem to give opinions with no scripture back-up, or just flat out reject the scriptures.
GaryArnold, // Others on this forum seem to give opinions with no scripture back-up, ……//
That’s not necessarily true. Several people will quote scripture to illustrate the point they are making if that is required. However, since a few of the Christians here know what the bible contains – even if they do choose to ignore the bits they don’t like – it isn’t always essential to the discussion.
That’s not necessarily true. Several people will quote scripture to illustrate the point they are making if that is required. However, since a few of the Christians here know what the bible contains – even if they do choose to ignore the bits they don’t like – it isn’t always essential to the discussion.
The originator of this blog starts by writing, "According to the holy bible tithing is a spiritual law encouraging one to give a portion of their earned income."
It says, "According to the holy bible....."
I gave comments, using scriptures from the Holy Bible, dealing with tithing. If anyone cares to check it out, NO ONE ELSE has given any relevant scripture for this topic.
Some have argued that the Bible isn't truth to begin with. What the heck does that have to do with this blog? It says, ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE. It didn't ask whether one believes the Holy Bible to be truth or not.
I believe many on this blog write comments merely for the sake of arguing. So many of the comments are not relevant to the topic, yet I get criticized for giving the scriptures that do, in fact, give exactly what the Holy Bible has to say about this topic.
I guess some on this blog have nothing better to do than try to be argumentive.
It says, "According to the holy bible....."
I gave comments, using scriptures from the Holy Bible, dealing with tithing. If anyone cares to check it out, NO ONE ELSE has given any relevant scripture for this topic.
Some have argued that the Bible isn't truth to begin with. What the heck does that have to do with this blog? It says, ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE. It didn't ask whether one believes the Holy Bible to be truth or not.
I believe many on this blog write comments merely for the sake of arguing. So many of the comments are not relevant to the topic, yet I get criticized for giving the scriptures that do, in fact, give exactly what the Holy Bible has to say about this topic.
I guess some on this blog have nothing better to do than try to be argumentive.
GaryArnold, // I guess some on this blog have nothing better to do than try to be argumentive.[sic]//
Having read your posts and having taken the trouble to explain to you, very politely, the reason why people don’t always feel the necessity to quote scripture, I can only conclude that your observation would appear to be correct.
Having read your posts and having taken the trouble to explain to you, very politely, the reason why people don’t always feel the necessity to quote scripture, I can only conclude that your observation would appear to be correct.
naomi24 //Having read your posts and having taken the trouble to explain to you, very politely, the reason why people don’t always feel the necessity to quote scripture, I can only conclude that your observation would appear to be correct. //
I say those who don't "feel the necessity to quote scripture" are most likely ignorant of the scriptures. They wouldn't make such ridiculous comments if they in fact knew the scriptures. They only show their ignorance. I back up what I have said on this topic with scripture. They have nothing to back up their comments; thus, they don't quote scripture. Plain and simple. With no scripture, the blind continue to lead the blind, and the ignorant remain ignorant.
I say those who don't "feel the necessity to quote scripture" are most likely ignorant of the scriptures. They wouldn't make such ridiculous comments if they in fact knew the scriptures. They only show their ignorance. I back up what I have said on this topic with scripture. They have nothing to back up their comments; thus, they don't quote scripture. Plain and simple. With no scripture, the blind continue to lead the blind, and the ignorant remain ignorant.
A fresh set (other than on here :) ) of opinions about the bible I recently came across - http://
GaryArnold - “... With no scripture, the blind continue to lead the blind, and the ignorant remain ignorant...”
Oh the arrogance! The absolute breathtaking arrogance!
Aside from your previous illogical argument about tithing, you're now saying that without scripture, we are 'blind'. How idiotic do you take people to be?
You're using the age-old (and completely discredited) argument that without scripture, human beings would be unable to tell right from wrong. This is not just incorrect, it's deeply insulting to those of us who live lawful and honourable lives without having to resort to scripture to tell us what to do and what to think.
Oh the arrogance! The absolute breathtaking arrogance!
Aside from your previous illogical argument about tithing, you're now saying that without scripture, we are 'blind'. How idiotic do you take people to be?
You're using the age-old (and completely discredited) argument that without scripture, human beings would be unable to tell right from wrong. This is not just incorrect, it's deeply insulting to those of us who live lawful and honourable lives without having to resort to scripture to tell us what to do and what to think.
GaryArnold -
Getting back to your tithing argument, I don't think you've understood my position and I doubt that you even understand your own. Allow me to draw you an analogy...
Mr. X is accused of murder. Mr X. is a devout follower of the Z religion. His barrister argues that Mr. X could not have committed the heinous crime of murder because Mr. X is a follower of religion Z. He tells the court that the laws contained within Mr. X's religion forbids murder in all its forms and since Mr. X is a deeply devout follower of Z, he is mentally and morally incapable of breaking Z's laws.
Taking the stand, Mr. X is asked by the prosecution if the laws of Z are immutable. Mr X. replies that in his opinion, they can be ignored because while he believes in Z, his particular sect of Z teaches that certain laws of Z can and should be ignored. In essence, Mr X. destroys his own defence.
Do you get it? It's not a difficult concept to grasp for those of us with a mind not polluted with religious dogma.
Getting back to your tithing argument, I don't think you've understood my position and I doubt that you even understand your own. Allow me to draw you an analogy...
Mr. X is accused of murder. Mr X. is a devout follower of the Z religion. His barrister argues that Mr. X could not have committed the heinous crime of murder because Mr. X is a follower of religion Z. He tells the court that the laws contained within Mr. X's religion forbids murder in all its forms and since Mr. X is a deeply devout follower of Z, he is mentally and morally incapable of breaking Z's laws.
Taking the stand, Mr. X is asked by the prosecution if the laws of Z are immutable. Mr X. replies that in his opinion, they can be ignored because while he believes in Z, his particular sect of Z teaches that certain laws of Z can and should be ignored. In essence, Mr X. destroys his own defence.
Do you get it? It's not a difficult concept to grasp for those of us with a mind not polluted with religious dogma.
GaryArnold - “... I guess some on this blog have nothing better to do than try to be argumentive...”
That old chestnut eh?
Grow up my friend. People are arguing against you not because they enjoy an argument but because the very premise of your argument is incorrect and illogical. Bleating about people disagreeing with you just makes you look rather pathetic.
That old chestnut eh?
Grow up my friend. People are arguing against you not because they enjoy an argument but because the very premise of your argument is incorrect and illogical. Bleating about people disagreeing with you just makes you look rather pathetic.
@birdie1971 - again your comments show a complete lack of understanding as to what I have written.
I am saying ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE, what tithing is, and ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE that tithing ended at the cross. I am not saying what is right for one to do or not do. The post has to do with ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE. Period. Not according to anything else. Apparently for some reason you just can't comprehend that I am giving my reply to what the originator wrote.
I have NOT said that I believe the Holy Bible to be true, something we should follow, etc. etc. etc.
It would be the same if I read a book and now asked for comments on that book. Comments on another book would not be relevant.
I am saying ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE, what tithing is, and ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE that tithing ended at the cross. I am not saying what is right for one to do or not do. The post has to do with ACCORDING TO THE HOLY BIBLE. Period. Not according to anything else. Apparently for some reason you just can't comprehend that I am giving my reply to what the originator wrote.
I have NOT said that I believe the Holy Bible to be true, something we should follow, etc. etc. etc.
It would be the same if I read a book and now asked for comments on that book. Comments on another book would not be relevant.
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