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Scottish Far-Right Group To Be Outlawed.

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anotheoldgit | 11:11 Fri 15th Sep 2017 | News
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https://stv.tv/news/politics/1397803-scottish-neo-nazi-group-set-to-be-outlawed-in-britain/

Why is it unlawful to fight in defence of one's race and nation"?

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//Why is it unlawful to fight in defence of one's race and nation"? //

Erm, because we have an army and security apparatus to defend UK citizens, so "fighting for one's race and nation" just seems like a paper-thin excuse to get violent against innocent people which one deems "threats."
Freeeeedom!
I wonder if membership includes those SNP drones who bemoan white settlers coming up here from Sassenachia and stealing our homes/land/sheep/haggis/shortbread/kulchur.

We'll never know.
///Why is it unlawful to fight in defence of one's race and nation"///

It's not if you have joined HM Forces, otherwise it just seems an excuse for coordinated thuggery...
All these far right and far left groups that advocate or use violence should be banned.

Anf if Mcdonnel and Mclusky continue with threats of violence because they cannot win through the ballot box then labour too must be banned.
Interesting that far right groups get banned, while ultra left are OK
// Why is it unlawful to fight in defence of one's race and nation"? //

It isn't. The questions are really easy today.
lol Gromit

I do think though that it is not helpful, when justifying bans like this, merely to label them "right wing" (or indeed "left wing").
The reasoning has to be made clear as support for or suspicion of participation in or orchestrating of, divisive or violent actions.
Otherwise we are going to get the sort of question aog raises, which has, as gromit says, a simple answer.
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Some of you conveniently seem to be taking this "fight in defence of one's race and nation" literately.

Can't you see or don't you want to see that it means to protest against the gradual demise of our culture and well being of our once great nation and against the measures that have been taken to turn this nation into a multicultural one.
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Strange how some wish to ban certain groups that have never set off bombs on tubes and buses, or slaughter people going about their peaceful activities.

These groups don't just 'protest' though......they stir up resentment and trouble (and do so knowlingly) and cause more problems than they claim to have identified and are protesting about.

Why do they undertake 'combat-training' if not to hoping to get the opportunity to get physical with someone?
AOG

You may have missed this bit because it was at the end of the article, and I know you rarely read past the headline:

// Detective Chief Superintendent Gerry McLean, who heads Police Scotland's Organised Crime & Counter Terrorism Unit (OCCTU), said: "National Action is the first domestic extremist group to have been proscribed by the Home Secretary and there is no place in Scotland for these types of extreme right wing views. //

National Action (NA), was classified as a terrorist organisation after celebrating the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox at the hands of a right wing extremist. Encouraging murder, whether it be al qaeda, or national Action, is not conducive to a stable democracy, and rightly membership should be outlawed.
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But don't ban far-left groups that openly call for the downfall of the Government of this nation and the cessation of democracy.
I think the clue to the problem with this group is hidden somewhere in the adjective "neo-Nazi" ...
Those left-wing groups don't take to the streets in balaclavas, hiding behind placards and banners and threatening bodily harm to people they have identified as undesirables.
(and I'm meaning as the initial Agitators rather than the 'reactionary' Alt-Left before you leap gleefully on that point!)
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/// These groups don't just 'protest' though......they stir up resentment and trouble (and do so knowlingly) and cause more problems than they claim to have identified and are protesting about. ///

That is what protesting is all about, one is bound to resent anyone who is likely to make alterations that effect them.

Are you saying that one should not be allowed to protest, just because it may upset those or certain measures that one is protesting about?

/// Why do they undertake 'combat-training' if not to hoping to get the opportunity to get physical with someone? ///

It's called self defence, which seems a wise move, when constantly being violently opposed by other groups, while peacefully marching or protesting.
don't shoot me down in flames here, please.

Am just wondering if banning far-right or far left groups would drive them underground and become more difficult for the authorities to keep an eye on?

"Those left-wing groups don't take to the streets in balaclavas, hiding behind placards and banners and threatening bodily harm to people they have identified as undesirables.
(and I'm meaning as the initial Agitators rather than the 'reactionary' Alt-Left before you leap gleefully on that point!)"

There would be no gleeful leaping if you stated what you claim you meant in the fist place instead of holding forth then immediately backtracking.
///Are you saying that one should not be allowed to protest, just because it may upset those or certain measures that one is protesting about? ///

No. And I'll bear that in mind next time you are complaining about a protest...
AOG

Celebrating the murder of an MP is not legitimate protest. It is not defending the country it is plain intimidation, thuggery and anti-democracy.

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