Royal Protocol ....

[Elina]

& curtseying. I know this has been happening for years & years & it's all steeped in history, but it really niggles me in these modern times. Could you see yourself having so much deference? Why should someone bow/curtsey to another human being? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2631457/So-thats-call-curtsey-car-Autumn-Phillips-kneels-driver-Royal-Range-Rover-making-merry-gorgeous-girls.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

[Sqad]

Yes I could.

Respect....discipline....tradition comes to mind.

Do you object to ranks in the Armed Forces saluting an officer?

Same principle.

[anneasquith]

ridiculous...................she looks like she is desperate for a wee !

[Elina]

Not sure about the forces sqad, you know when you enlist it's to be expected of you. I think we should move on & give curtseying/bowing up!

[Sqad]

OK.

[B00]

What do you suggest we do instead Elina Fist bump 'em? High five em??

I agree with sqad on this one.

[Elina]

LOL Boo, I think even shaking her hand isn't allowed, why ever not?

[jackthehat]

The second word in your heading gives a big clue.....

[B00]

She does shake hands if she's presented to them on an official royal occasion, but on this one, as she's driving past in a car, we can hardly expect an 80 odd year old lady to hang out of her car in order to do so.

[Elina]

Yes jack, as I said, protocol/history ... & so many many years have passed.

[jackthehat]

Well, I suggest that next time you meet the Queen you refrain from curtseying, that way, you'll have done your own 'bit' for modernising traditions....

[Elina]

No Boo, my little fellow Manc , the old lady shouldn't trouble herself. I'm more questioning the tradition of curtseying/ bowing.

[Peter Pedant]

agree Elina - it comes with the job in the Forces

and surely comes with the job if you marry a royal ?

as in Marry me my love oh and I have this batty old granny who lives in a council house called Buckingham Palace....

The Queen curtsied to the Queen of Denmark when England visited Denmark as part of Royal protocol for Royals.
Nancy Reagan loudly declared she would not curtsye to the Queen of England,as she was wife of the President of the ......etc.etc.
and so it was arranged for them to meet in private.

I wonder on a daily basis why I can call a 16 y o gurl, miss or ma'am without turning a hair and yet any 16 y o lad, usually address as young man and not sir. -

[Elina]

I can't see I'll ever have the opportunity/need/want to meet her jack.

[Elina]

Peter, yes,to be expected if you marry in to it. What about the rest of us?

[Peter Pedant]

.um.... I think it is like a kid sticking his fingers into a plug....
if you dont want a shock, dont do it - but of course it is a free country

so that if you doan wanna curtsye to the queen dont go there.

but if you are in the queue, there 's a whole bit you have to cope with - she in tiara, red carpet, cucumber sarndwiches


But in the long term I agree protocol must change - one of the first things George V did was scrap levees.
and the first thing Edw VII did was to give orders that John Browns room was to be emptied and the furniture burnt.

[boxtops]

I don't have a problem with it. If there is ever an occasion when I'm presented to Royalty, I'd gladly show deference to their status. I'm a commoner, they're regal.

[Elina]

I wont do it then Peter ;0)

[anneasquith]

'' they are regal '' what does that actually mean box ?

[jackthehat]

Me, too, boxy.
It's hardly onerous....

[mikey4444]

I have a rule and its never to curtsey.