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Theland | 16:20 Mon 27th Jan 2020 | ChatterBank
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Will we remember?
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I don’t think I’ll ever forget TheLand after visiting there some years ago
auschwitz is still there, inmate interviews on film tape, as the survivors pass away, we will still have all the evidence.
in a hundred tow hundred years, perhpas it will become a footnote
in history.. but again we still have the film evidence.
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One of my sons and his wife visited two years ago.
A lasting impression that will never leave him.

Shame on Corbyn for not stamping out antiSemitism and letting it drag on and on and on.

Louise Ellman left the party because of his inaction.
Jewish people have been persecuted for centuries. Human memories are frail things, and something similar to Auschwitz will, no doubt, happen again.
http://www.historyofyork.org.uk/themes/norman/the-1190-massacre
Thanks for that link bookbinder, hadn't heard of that before. However, as you say, Jews have been persecuted for centuries. The reason for this escapes me as I believe all people are created equal.
I've been listening to some of the survivors telling their stories on Sky this afternoon. One lady was taken when she was 8 and experimented on by Mengele. Just terrible, I was moved to tears.
I think, when talking about the holocaust, we should remember that gypsies, homosexuals, lesbians, disabled etc were also subject to the atrocities, not just Jews.
and what will we remember ?
Putin took the view that the Nazi Soviet pact (oops he forgot about that one) the Red Army invaded Poland to PREVENT the worst excesses of Nazi aggression.

we have even had the idea that Germany invaded Poland in order to put the holocaust into action

and others died as well as Jews - but not as many - Jews about 50%. The wreaths in Auscjwitz did any one notice - Green triangles - political -and red - presumably the Jews didnt live long enough to get a triangle.
no pink triangles - I think only two survived the war - just in case someone sees one on Ebay

This should have been posted elsewhere - perhaps in Society & Culture. It will very soon disappear into oblivion in this category.

Will we remember? I hope so.

For anyone who isn't aware, Auschwitz and Birkenau until the end of the war when Poland's borders were redefined, were situated in Germany. They are separate camps a few kilometres apart. The gathering shown on television tonight was held at Birkenau and the memorial stones lit by candles - over twenty of them all bearing the same inscription written in every language found by the liberators to be spoken by the prisoners - are there too.

The legend inscribed upon them reads:

"For ever let this place be a cry of despair and a warning to humanity where the Nazis murdered about one and a half million men, women and children, mainly Jews, from various countries of Europe".

The centrepiece of the memorial there depicts a chimney.

A sad, bleak and dreadful place still.
The best chance of a bit of a debate/ discussion on AB now is chatterbank. Other topics are redundant .
Those that forget are condemned to repeat. Man is just too stupid to realise his own stupidity.
Never forgotten, speaking for me not 'we'.
Yes Putin’s take on the victims of the Holocaust was “creative”
The reason so many of the victims were “Soviet citizens” was because they’d been annexed by Stalin’s own war machine
There was a BBC documentary about 15 years ago, about a Cheshire boy (not Jewish) who volunteered for service in the Army in 1939. I think his name was Alf. They said he was unfit for active service due to an accident he'd had several years before on his dads farm. However, because he knew about diesel engines and could drive heavy machinery, he was given a position of teaching driving and basic mechanics to new recruits. Due to the shortage of drivers in North Africa, he was transferred there and drove supply trucks to the front line troops. All ok until one day whilst delivering supplies, they were overrun by a surprise attack from the Germans and Alf was captured. Where did he end up? Yep, Auschwitz. He was sent there because there was a manufacturing plant for military machinery and he had experience of heavy machinery. In the prog, he told how they tried to help the Jewish inmates, at great risk to themselves. Also how they tried to help the war effort by sabotaging the machinery in subtle ways, like putting sugar in petrol, sand/iron filings in oil supplies; assembling machines with vital parts missing etc. It's just a different aspect to the Auschwitz story. I think Alf died in 2005.
Thanks, scorpiojo. That is indeed him. I appreciate you finding that because I obviously got his name wrong. Having seen the documentary, a friend of mine had a book about Auschwitz that told of various British servicemen who were at Auschwitz and survived. Arthur Dodds was in the book. Thank you for that.
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I like one of the last entries in that link, scorpiojo. I don't know if you read it, but it says Arthur went back to Germany in 1997 and asked I.G.Farben for 14 months back pay from when he worked for them at Auschwitz as a POW! Nowt wrong with asking! He didn't get it!

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