Still wonder why I don't trust the organ donor system?

[R1Geezer]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8613909.stm
Enough Said.

[Androcles]

The other main concern is whether you are actually dead before some enthusiast decides to remove any organs they want...... - who decides you are?

[dizmouk2009]

They can't get mine mixed up, the large bloated old one is my liver lol.

[IggyB]

everyone should have all their organs harvested when they die with or without their previous consent - problem solved - enough said

[R1Geezer]

and who decides when they are "dead" iggy?

[Coobeastie]

I believe that they would consider you dead if you had stopped breathing and showed no brain (& brain stem) activity. Anybody would think that they (NHS) are carving people up for spares as soon as they come through the doors.

[Zeuhl]

Not sure I'd trust any IT project in any sector of government.

[Zeuhl]

Aren't the geeks in the process of placing all our medical records on a single system that can be accessed from anywhere?

Great timing for this little bombshell!

[jno]

posting on AB is widely regarded in the medical world as a sign that you're brain dead.

[Booldawg]

I think Monty Python had it right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aclS1pGHp8o

[rov1200]

I assume as its an NHS donor scheme patients in private hospitals are exempt from donating?

[birdie1971]

R1Geezer - 'Enough Said.'

As questions go, this is short. I assume that you are against the principal of organ donation. Your post is so short that I'm actually unsure what your position is.


From the BBC article:

'Stephen Banks agreed to donate organs when he renewed his driving licence... “I received a letter from the NHS thanking me for donating [liver, lungs, pancreas and kidneys] and telling me I had also donated my eyes. I was shocked as I knew I hadn't agreed to that.” '

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking... what's your problem? This chap gives his consent for medical science to harvest his major organs for transplantation and then gets all precious about his eyes. What does he think he's going to do with them after his death and subsequent removal of his liver, lungs, pancreas and kidneys?

Every one of us possesses body parts that, upon transplantation, could immeasurably improve the quality of life of another person after our death.

If you're happy to donate after your death (as I am) then as far as I'm concerned, everything should be fair game.

If you don't want to donate, then fair enough too.


But to say I'll donate this bit, but not that bit is just plain stupid.

[askyourgran]

What worrries me is could I be revived but they wouldn't bother because they'd rather have my organs?

[birdie1971]

R1Geezer - “... and who decides when they are 'dead'”

Doctors tend to do this sort of thing. Tell-tale signs like: no heart-beat, no pulse, the onset of rigor mortis; things of that nature are indicative of the symptoms of death.

Surely you're not suggesting that your organs will be removed from your body whilst you're still alive?

I've watched Monty Python's - The Meaning Of Life too and believe me when I say that the 'Live Organ Donation' sketch (while very funny) is not actually a real depiction of the organ donation process.

[birdie1971]

Askyourgran -

I can understand your concern but I honestly think that your fears are unfounded.

[kia cat]

Couldn't agree more birdie, you either want to donate or you don't. Once you're dead what use will the organs be? Either reduced to ashes of fertilise the daisies. I can't see the problem here.

[R1Geezer]

No birdy not against donation, I'm against the ever growing, "what's the problem?" culture that you ably demonstrate. I'm not a donor but if others want to that's fine. I'm against the Opt out suggestion and the general evangelism surrouding this. I'm not religious at all as you are no doubt aware from other posts.

[bibblebub]

Do you need a perfect body so that you can be embalmed, like Lenin for example, and then you could be wheeled out for an annual AB posting? Or has that happened already?

[R1Geezer]

No biblet1t but I'm quite keen on being brown bread before I get carved up in the back of an ambulance.

[marval]

Why can't they just have an opt-out system, if you don't want to donate your organs, you register. Anyone who doesn't register automatically gets their organs used, problem solved.

[R1Geezer]

you register? right oh, like those in the link above you mean? Governement IT is a shower of sh1te.