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Did women's lib actually liberate men?
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From the viewpoint of having lived through the 60s and 70s, my view is that the popular interpretation of feminism, the arrival of reliable contraception and the legalisation of abortion combined with 'radical'politics put additional pressure on women and girls to be available sexually for men.
However, the story of womens rights is far longer and more complex than the phrase 'women's lib' implies. I may be reading the question wrong but to me the phrase conjures up sit-com bra-burning episodes from 1971.
I also feel that one of the downsides of the 'women's lib' phase of the early 1970's was that it produced my generation of women who were made to believe they had to work their bwtts off being professionals and managing homes as well.
However, the story of womens rights is far longer and more complex than the phrase 'women's lib' implies. I may be reading the question wrong but to me the phrase conjures up sit-com bra-burning episodes from 1971.
I also feel that one of the downsides of the 'women's lib' phase of the early 1970's was that it produced my generation of women who were made to believe they had to work their bwtts off being professionals and managing homes as well.
Again, I concur, I remember years ago (and I mean years when Ricki Lake was on Channel 4) I came home off a middle and the one who was living with me at the time had it on.
2 women, 1 was a carreer woman (or modern as the caption said) whereas the other was described as "traditional", I thought they're both modern, they're both right, they're just different.
Liberation is the right to choose.
I'll try and cut and paste the thread that inspired my musing, it'll make my emphasis better I hope
2 women, 1 was a carreer woman (or modern as the caption said) whereas the other was described as "traditional", I thought they're both modern, they're both right, they're just different.
Liberation is the right to choose.
I'll try and cut and paste the thread that inspired my musing, it'll make my emphasis better I hope
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question71 4691.html
Blimey I impressed myself there!
Blimey I impressed myself there!
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Women's lib certainly didn't liberate men. It encouraged women to become more sexist. The most sexist people I have met have been women's libbers.
Many women still cling to the notion of being the exclusive nurturers and regularly stereotype men as aggressive and unemotional. Indeed they jealously guard their feminine tradition against any intrusion by men. Many women want this to reamin unchanged to avoid any feelings of guilt when they subject us to brutal emotional tirades. According to them, men are born insensitive so they cannot be harmed in this way.
A man cheats on a woman and he is considered scum. A woman cheating on a man elicits comments about how her man must have been a real brute. The double standards are sickening.
Women's liberation painted a picture of oppression and denied opportunity by a simple system of classification. Anything that was traditional for men was assigned high value while any traditionally female persuits were designated as "demeaning". Little wonder men seemed to have it all. And the Liberationists howled down anyone who tried to point out the down side of the lot of men.
Our societies have been devastated by this ridiculous devaluation of child care. Rather than paintng it as demaening it should have been presented as a wonderful part of life that men could become a bigger part of. But no. That would have been saying women had something good that men had little opportunity to be part of.
Men were and often still are treated by some women as work objects. Our value is assigned by financial and production ability. Many a man has lost his whole family because he lost his job.
Males are still systematically shut out emotionally as they grow up. The long history of bringing up boys as the protectors of women still continues. We must not make men sensitive as this would mean women would not be free to be emotionally vulnerable.
Many women still cling to the notion of being the exclusive nurturers and regularly stereotype men as aggressive and unemotional. Indeed they jealously guard their feminine tradition against any intrusion by men. Many women want this to reamin unchanged to avoid any feelings of guilt when they subject us to brutal emotional tirades. According to them, men are born insensitive so they cannot be harmed in this way.
A man cheats on a woman and he is considered scum. A woman cheating on a man elicits comments about how her man must have been a real brute. The double standards are sickening.
Women's liberation painted a picture of oppression and denied opportunity by a simple system of classification. Anything that was traditional for men was assigned high value while any traditionally female persuits were designated as "demeaning". Little wonder men seemed to have it all. And the Liberationists howled down anyone who tried to point out the down side of the lot of men.
Our societies have been devastated by this ridiculous devaluation of child care. Rather than paintng it as demaening it should have been presented as a wonderful part of life that men could become a bigger part of. But no. That would have been saying women had something good that men had little opportunity to be part of.
Men were and often still are treated by some women as work objects. Our value is assigned by financial and production ability. Many a man has lost his whole family because he lost his job.
Males are still systematically shut out emotionally as they grow up. The long history of bringing up boys as the protectors of women still continues. We must not make men sensitive as this would mean women would not be free to be emotionally vulnerable.
Oki but look at the other way around, men today in their 40s go out clubbing and play computer games etc, they wear young type clothes, 20 years ago that would'nt have happened.
Men today are free to do as they choose partly because the libbers (and I agree I find them obnoxious too) told them to go away.
Now the cry is going up why can't men stay in relationships, why can't men be better fathers?
Chris Rock did a bit in his act that was funny and kinda true.
Of course all good comedy is in recognition.
Men today are free to do as they choose partly because the libbers (and I agree I find them obnoxious too) told them to go away.
Now the cry is going up why can't men stay in relationships, why can't men be better fathers?
Chris Rock did a bit in his act that was funny and kinda true.
Of course all good comedy is in recognition.
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