Harry

[stensonlad]

Come on get a grip!
Who are these people complaining about what Prince Harry said in the video?
**** is just short for for a person from Pakistan the same as Brit is short for a person from Britain and nobody gets pulled up for saying that!
Rag head!!!!!!!! Come on this is a term for people Killing our soldiers, Who cares if we affend them and soldiers have always had nick names for the ones they were fighting.
And swearing how dare he!!
What Planet are these people off?
This is the mallenium, people swear all the time.
I defy any one who says they would'nt swear while in a war zone and constantly looking over their shoulder.

[terambulan]

Usually when there is a 'slur' on the middle east there's a lot of rioting and burning of flags (as per Shilta/Jade). No such broadcasts from Pakistan? That speaks volumes - they're not offended!

[sp1814]

terambulan - once again you've put me in my place. You are truly a God amongst men and my only regret is that I don't know you in 'real life'.

God bless you...you're a much better man than that illegitimate Prince Harry. Still what can you expect from a man whose dad proffessed to wanting to be Camilla's tampon, and whose mother slept with any fella who wasn't attached to another man or a respirator.

[simonruss]

I think this has been blown out of all proportion, its just military humour, the press should leave him alone and concentrate on IMPORTANT issues.

[terambulan]

sp1814....try to refrain from speaking ill of the dead - makes you less of a man.

If you want to meet me I agree......come to Windsor, I'm here.

[sp1814]

My taxes were paying for that adulterous pair of leeches. Actually I didn't mind Diana - she seemed a good sort. Anyone who is disliked by the Duke of Edinburgh is okay by me.

So I shall withdraw the leeches comment.

And who knows, if she'd survived that car crash, maybe she would've instilled some of her common humanity into her youngest son and he wouldn't have turned out to be a bit moronic like his dad James Hew....

Damn, I've done it again!!!

[Totterdown]

sp1814, rightly or wrongly I had to laugh at your comments, but be careful they don't haul you off to the Tower!

[Velvetee]

I have Indian friends who refer to Pakistanis in the same way Harry did!

[Quinlad]

No-one saying Harry should be sent to prison or chased with sticks because of what he said.

But it perplexes me that so many of you are surprised that this has made the news.

Then again, it was only a light-hearted comment. I'm sure if Gordon Brown was filmed affectionately calling his PA a flat-chested bitch, you'd overlook that in favour of 'more important' news as well.

[Totterdown]

I agree Quinlad. I would bet my life that these people sticking up for Harry would be the first to condemn anyone else for using similar language, in fun or not. It seems it is OK for him to do it just because of who he is. Of course it all seems a bit petty but be fair - if its good enough for anyone else to be criticised for such remarks, then it is good enough for him. Then you get those saying how wonderful he is fighting for his country, so give him a break. But then so are the thousands of others who would not get preferential treatment if they used foul remarks and would probably get suspended or whatever. Why should he not be treated the same?

[sp1814]

The same people who brush off Harry's remarks citing "Freedom of speech" etc, are the very same people who foamed at the mouth at Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross' "jokes".

Hypocrites.

[HatlessJack]

I agree Quinlad. I would bet my life that these people sticking up for Harry would be the first to condemn anyone else for using similar language, in fun or not.

Ermmm.........wrong !

I just can't muster enough outrage for this non-story for some folks liking.
However, as I always look at each case on an individual basis rather than immediately start leaping up and down frothing about the perceived inustices of an instance, I probably wouldn't be welcome to the 'knee-jerk other-agenda society' functioning so regularly on these pages.

The same people who brush off Harry's remarks citing "Freedom of speech" etc, are the very same people who foamed at the mouth at Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross' "jokes".

Prove it..............I'd be interested to see where I defended Ross/Brand..............and that goes for everyone else who has disagreed with you on this issue.

[sp1814]

HJ

I'll be honest - I wasn't referring to you. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing your screen name before on this site.

However, if you go back a few months and look at the furore over Brand/Ross, the same people who were outraged at the language left on the answerphone in the cause of 'fun' are the same people who don't see anything wrong with the use of language used in the cause of 'fun' at this Asian lad.

That's smacks of hypocracy.

[sp1814]

This is a good place to start:

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question64 6547.html

[HatlessJack]

Andrew Sachs was upset by the comments; the soldier in the 'Harry' video wasn't....................

FYI - I was Jackthehat but ended up in the dungeon for some minor misdemeanour just before Christmas............

[Totterdown]

HatlessJack - I notice you only commented on my first sentence. What about the rest? Just what is it about Harry that he should not be criticised but others can be? I can take or leave the Royal Family but I certainly do not fawn over them and think they should be treated the same as anyone else whatever the circumstances. As for the other person not taking offence, how do you know? Perhaps he thought it best to keep quiet because of who the perpetrator was. In any case his father has now come out and criticised Prince Harry.

[HatlessJack]

Just what is it about Harry that he should not be criticised but others can be?
He has been the subject of a witch-hunt. Based not so much on what he said, as who he is.............

I can take or leave the Royal Family but I certainly do not fawn over them and think they should be treated the same as anyone else whatever the circumstances.
Irrelevant..............or it would be if this matter hadn't been blown out of all proportion because of just WHO he is.

As for the other person not taking offence, how do you know?
Because ALL the media reporting this trivial matter have said so..........

Perhaps he thought it best to keep quiet because of who the perpetrator was.
How do you know ?

In any case his father has now come out and criticised Prince Harry.
As is his prerogative................but the matter is now 3-years old...........

[Quinlad]

It's not 3 years old. It's only come to light now. And that's what makes it newsworthy.

It's not a witch-hunt, it's not mustering outrage, it's not foaming at the mouth. It's simply explaining to the people who cannot fathom why this is in the papers, the newsworthiness of a high-profile member of the royal family chucking around a term 'P@ki'.

[LoftyLottie]

SP1814. I was one of the people on the thread you gave.
I actually like Jon Ross and Russell Brand but agreed that what they said on air was entirely wrong.

The difference is that the video was private and the remark made was not offensive to the Pakistani in question who was one of Harry's colleagues and a mate.

Jon Ross and Russell Brand made their comments on National Radio and did cause offense to Andrew Sachs and his grandaughter.

I cannot see the comparison.

And I disagree that Harry 'chucked around' the term 'pak1'. The disgrace is with the person who sold this video to the Press.

Anyway, the Prince will have learned by now that he has no private life and will take more care.

I totally agree with stensonlad who raised this thread, and Hatlass Jack.

[Quinlad]

Lottie, that's what I mean by the Jim Davidson Argument.

He hauled the character of ChalkIe round for years with the supposed justification that the black friend he based it on (fictional or otherwise) found it hilarious.