Question time....."Islamaphobia"

[R1Geezer]

Why do they never give the obvious answer? When the Muslim guy moaned about "Islamaphobia at fever pitch" and Stoke voters electing 9 BNP candidates, why did no one give the correct answer rather than the usual walking on eggshells standard responses when Islam is involved? I was screaming at the Telly! Is Islamaphobia at "fever pitch"?

[DrFilth]

keyplus
( why terrorists did not attack Germany, France, or any other country. Why IRA were carrying out attacks in England and why France was under attack from Algerians. )

why did terrorists not attack france
why france was under attack from algerians

have i read that right

[keyplus90]

Birdie - your answer is there go and read that.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question63 9707.html

Everton - Lets talk about Indonesia, Please tell me what is the difference between East Timor when comparing that to Kashmir or Palestine. Why at one place UNO took six months to act and why at the others UNO are still thinking after 60 years. Please explain?

Dr - Yes you read it right. First ref is to do Al Qaeda (American invention) They had nothing to do with France so they did not attack France. Later ones (Algerians) were fighting for freedom from French so they attacked France.

[keyplus90]

My little birdie- I can not go back again to that old question as many people might not even log into that.

Now you please answer my old question that so far you have never answered.

Islam according to you and few others here is so bad, violent, oppressing, non liberal and so on, then why it is spreading in the West specially in USA?.

And I hope you would answer the question instead of twisting the words again, like, oh its forced, oh its miss quoted and so on. So for that reason I am not talking about Yevone Ridley this time as according to Mrs 24 hr she was forced into it while in Afghanistan, but I do wonder why does she not change her mind now as she is neither in Afghanistan nor a captive of Taliban any more. So I am talking abot wider angle.

[birdie1971]

�And I hope you would answer the question instead of twisting the words again, like, oh its forced, oh its miss quoted and so on.�

I have never, ever twisted your words Keyplus. You know it and I know it and everyone who has ever read our exchanges know this too.

However, your question, �then why is [Islam] spreading in the West especially in USA?� it�s a difficult question to answer

Oh dear, what do we say about the Americans? Lovely people but not the sharpest tools in the box (generally speaking). Why are they adopting Islam? Probably for the same reason that you love Islam. They are given the �nice� verses of the Koran and never bother to investigate for themselves what the reality of the scriptures are.

If Islam is the �fastest growin� religion in the USA, then i would suggest that idiocy is growing far faster than Islam.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, if by Mrs 24hr you're referring to me, I haven't mentioned your one shining example, Yvonne Ridley, here, so just who is twisting words? For the record I will say she was probably brainwashed, though, just as the rest of you are.

If Islam is growing, then it's probably due, in the main, to the unlimited numbers of children Muslims produce.

[naomi24]

By the way, Keyplus, you haven't answered my question, so I'll ask it again.

If an Islamic nation invaded this country tomorrow, whose side would you take?

[123everton]

Yvonne Ridley is a big fat phoney and a fake.
She was a non-descript journalist of staggering mediocrity who thought after being released by the Taleban she'd be feted like a latter day John Macarthy or Terry Waite, only to discover that noone really cared what she thought about her incarceration nor did she mention that had she been an Afghan woman they'd have shot her.
Algeria is free from French rule now, France voted against the war and yet plots were uncovered to attack France (if memory serves) similarly Germany has apparently uncovered a plot to attack it.
Islam's rise in America is IMHO borne primarily from black American dissatisfaction with change and relentless poverty.
Martin Luther King said "I have a dream", Malcolm X and Louis Farakhan say "fight the power!" if you're young, poor and surrounded by wealth you're seemingly unable to acquire then fighting something,anything is very attractive.

[Quinlad]

"If an Islamic nation invaded this country tomorrow, whose side would you take?"

Ace! Reminds me of that scene in This Is England.

"I've got one question to ask you and that's do you consider yourself English or Jamaican?"

[123everton]

To answer your question as best I can (I'm not that well up on Asian history) Kashmir was signed into India by it's then ruler/governer a few fights later it was partitioned, Kashmir was and is legally part of India that may change in the future.
Palestine is different to Kashmir, but the answer for peace in the region will not come about by further prosecution of war by Muslims, it's a very simple fact to follow that in any scrap you care to mention (even the last Lebannese adventure) Israel batters it's neighbours.
If Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia etal want an equitable peace in Palestine all they have to do is fund a general strike by Arab Israelis and mass demonstrations, sit ins on the main roads, sit ins on the border crossings a simple pretext for the demos would be Arab Israelis demanding the right to vote (or at least to be taxed with some representation) if Israel reacts violently to it, then all the better.
Martin Luther King revelled in creating crises for the segragationists to react violently to.
The reality with regard to international terrorism is that there is no room for appeasement, added to that you cannot appease Al Qaeda because it's hard to actually see what it is they want politically, internationally or even socially on a local level an Al Qaeda government would be devisive and arbitrary setting Muslim against Muslim (especially Kashmiri Muslims) because of it's own narrow interpretation of Islam.

[naomi24]

Oh really, Quinlad? I haven�t seen the film, but from the dialogue you quote you seem to have made rather a skew-whiff connection there�.. unless, of course, as it appears, you believe Islam to be a country. Geography and world affairs not your strong points, eh? Oh well, never mind. Thank you for your effort, anyway, but I really would prefer an answer from the person to whom the question was addressed.

Incidentally, since you think you�re so incredibly sharp, I was, for a fleeting moment, tempted to advise you against cutting yourself, but as you�re clearly not, I've decided not to bother. No danger of injury there.

[keyplus90]

Birdie � I can�t say the same what you are saying about Americans, but I do want to say about your �nice� verses then my experience is that the people who convert are usually the ones who go deep into the religion before making the decision. It�s the people who are born in the religion who do not look into it.

Naomi � I wonder if Ridley would ever come out of brain wash as she is under no force any more.

Now to your question,


naomi24
Sun 19/10/08
08:32 By the way, Keyplus, you haven't answered my question, so I'll ask it again.

If an Islamic nation invaded this country tomorrow, whose side would you take?

If my home is invaded I am supposed to stand and fight and that is another form of Jihad, this country is my home and I have no doubt that I would stand against any invasion from any one.

I am sure you were not expecting this answer and I am even more sure that you would not believe me and sometime would pretend again as I never answered you.

Everton � what you are referring is cooked story that Kashmir was sold for 70K rupees to then India. Even if that was true for argument sake, then India at that time was united India and has nothing to do with India now. In that case it would have been signed to India as united and that once divided would have given right of claim to the other party Pakistan in this instance. Then anyone can sell land but not the people with the land. Any way I was talking about UNO resolution on 21st April 1948 for a referendum in Kashmir that still is active and has never been acted upon after 60 years.

[123everton]

Like I said Keyplus I'm that well up on Asian history but I do recall that at the time of partition Kashmir's leaders had a choice of countries and chose India, it was on documentary about India on the B.B.C if I recall.

[naomi24]

That's exactly the answer I expected, Keyplus - and you're right - I don't believe you.

Yet another false allegation, I see. I have no reason to pretend, and I don't. If you haven't answered a question I say so, and if you have I respond. Everyone reads your posts, Keyplus, so you aren't fooling anyone with this continual nonsense, and I really can't imagine why you think you are - unless you take the people here for fools. Be warned - the vast majority if them are far from that - and I imagine that, by now, most of them have you well and truly taped.

[Quinlad]

"Incidentally, since you think you�re so incredibly sharp, I was, for a fleeting moment, tempted to advise you against cutting yourself, but as you�re clearly not, I've decided not to bother. No danger of injury there."

You should keep that one and use it again.

[naomi24]

Mmm.

[keyplus90]

Naomi - Yes you are right, people are not that daft that they can not see or understand.

[trevt0m]

everything you hear today is about muslims and **** and blacks lets find a poison to get rid of them or round them all up put them on a big big big island and nuke them all they are nothing but trouble every british white man should vote bnp thats the solution or god help us