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gulliver1 | 15:07 Sun 03rd Dec 2023 | News
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Downing St......Dare not admit it, but Ursula von der Leyen is correct. The UK will be going back on Brexit. There was little doubt who came out best in the spat between Ursula and Sunak last week over Britain rejoining the EU.She began by saying it will fall to her children's generation to fix it or maybe earlier , but the direction of travel is quite clear...Britain will one day rejoin the EU.

 

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2117 - pencil it in your diary and tell us then if we're still on track to rejoin

 

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Nma 14.12 Just hope we are both still around when it inevitably happens ...I will buy you a drink.

I doubt it Gulliver,most companies such as mine seem to have established EU offices in the EU.Our Spanish,French and Portuguese customers have came back to us Brits,us Scots,for their seafood.Any return to the EU might lead to a lot of protests from our Tory friends on this site and from our SNP friends on this site.

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14 30 ynnnafymmi .Glad to see that you and your company are back on track ,,,What's the weather like up where you are ?

"Any return to the EU might lead to a lot of protests from our Tory friends on this site and from our SNP friends on this site."

It is more likely to be favoured by SNP supporting members on here but yet again, don't let the facts get in the road, eh?

@[email protected] voters were the majority Brexiteers up here in Scotland.

"Our Spanish,French and Portuguese customers have came back to us Brits,us Scots,for their seafood."

So what was all the fuss about, then? Your company adapted to the new conditions. It's what all companies should have done. They had over three years (plus the year of the "transition period") to do so. 

And?

That was for YNNAFYMMI 

@15.46.Yes,NJ,but it cost our company boss over £100,000 to set up these agencies overseas,and he has stated that without that money he punted overseas that he would have just closed our company down and paid off 250 workers.

So about £400 per emloyee, then. 

Has he explored the prospect of developing markets outside the EU?

You taking the *** now,NJ?

I will not get involved here with bias and NJ's 'spin' put on as seemingly 'educated and researched' replies. It's easier for larger companies to fund European or overseas offices BUT most SME's especially smaller often family run businesses are simply unable to do so, or more often do not want to do so. In the EU everything was easy, it was fine we were all happy.. all I know is I heard a radio interview with a woman who lost her small business following the UK leaving the EU, she was in tears, her customers from Europe disappeared 'over night'.
My  friend who runs his own business in the 'tech sector' continues to struggle following the loss of EU customers.
I suspect Hymie has tried many times to point all this out.
 

Very well said Roobaba,very well said.But im afraid it will fall on deaf ears here on AB.

NJ’s position on Brexit is typical of Brexiteers; if you lost your job or the company you worked to build up went bust due to Brexit – suck it up, you losers.

 

Now that the reality of Brexit has dawned on most of the UK population, rejoining is inevitable.  All it will take is for one of the main political parties to adopt it as a policy in their manifesto.  It may even be the Tories, once they ditch all those MPs Boris forced to swear allegiance to all things Brexit.

In four weeks from now Brexiteers are going to be explaining the benefits of a 10% tariff on UK manufactured EVs exported to the EU.  If the UK wants to maintain a car manufacturing business in the UK, we are going to have to subsidise (pay your tax £s) exported EVs at around £4,000 a pop.

 

No doubt NJ will be saying ‘Let the UK car manufacturers go to the wall, if they can’t produce a competitive product’.

 

There is a move by Germany and France to extend the EV tariff free period, but I don’t see why they should want such a thing  – they can sell to the whole of the EU tariff free, with little competition from the UK; with fewer vehicles exported to the UK, a price worth paying.

now hymie is BSing himself!

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Hymie @ 19.48 ......Spot on again .

Also in four weeks time, the Retained EU law Reform Bill comes into full effect.

 

This will result in the loss to UK citizens of an unknown number of rights and protections that were gained through being members of the EU.

 

You may recall a short while ago, the government realised that this legislation would take away women’s rights to equal pay – and passed legislation to restore this.

 

As we transition 2024, you can bet that I will be notifying ABers of those lost rights, as they come to light.

"There is a move by Germany and France to extend the EV tariff free period, but I don’t see why they should want such a thing  – they can sell to the whole of the EU tariff free,..."

Once again, Hymie, you demonstrate what a frail grasp you have of these things. A short while ago you raised exactly the same point and I explained that (particularly) Germany and France were lobbying for an extension. I also explained why. I'm not going to keep looking up stuff which you have had explained previously to you, but basically the tax is on vehicles which are manufactured when more than certain  percentage (can't recall how much) of their components were sourced from outside the EU or UK. German and French manufacturers of EVs cannot source their batteries from within the EU and will fall foul of the tax. It's nothing to do with how many vehicles they can sell within the EU, it is about where they will have to source their components from. 

"This will result in the loss to UK citizens of an unknown number of rights and protections that were gained through being members of the EU."

Which rights which were gained through EU membership will UK citizens be losing next month? Hint: we've also done this before. Further hint: I can't recall you indentifying any (but I can't be bothered to look).

Do you think that by asking the same questions enough times you will eventually not be shot down in flames? I think that might happen, but only because people will tire of answering.

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