Labour Does The Double

[ichkeria]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/by-elections-results-live-tamworth-mid-bedfordshire-b2432668.html
 

Ok those seats may return to the Tories at the general election but what of the several more marginal neighbouring "blue wall" seats?

Interestingly, the Reform party vote in each case, had it gone a different shade of blue, would have saved the government. 

[10ClarionSt]

They may well go back to Tory, but that's just being hopeful. These are good results for Labour and we are progressing in the right direction. No complacency. Keep up the good work. I'm cautiously optimistic for the GE. Can any Tories say the same? 

[bhg481]

Unless the Tories get over the arrogance and complacency demonstrated by TTT we'll suddenly find ourselves in 5 years of doom.

[gulliver1]

TTT 09.10and 09.17 .The Tories had their aprils kicked out of their seats. they lost  suck it up.   Whoohoo.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ToraToraTora]

It's well known that nearly all seats turned over in by elections return to the original holder.

[gulliver1]

That's the spirit  follow Boris's example ,black is white and white is black. Lose means win. PMSL🤣.

[Mozz71]

Don't worry Tora, even if Sir Beer does win the general election, I'm sure you can find a way to describe him as "not real Labour" or "Tory-light" so you can change history.

[ToraToraTora]

Well in order to get elected we know that Labour must not be real Labour.

[mushroom25]

here in the Tamworth constituency, neither leading candidate covered themselves in glory (at least, not in my book). the main canvassing point of both campaigns consisted of slagging off the opposition, rather than telling the electorate what they were going to do for them.

[Zacs-Master]

Tora, you're sounding a bit like John Cleese in The Dead Parrot Sketch. 

[Untitled]

it seems to me that the tories have given up on the next election and are looking instead to the one after it... they are acting like a party in opposition rather than government 

if i was a tory my "plan" would be to let labour have 4 or 5 years and when they inevitably fail to fix the catastrophic damage my lot have done to this country's infrastructure then blame labour for it as though the 2010-24 period never happened... elect a far-right faragist leader and then fight the next election on that 

i think that is what they want to do

[Gromit]

Nadine's revenge.

Labour don't have to win the General Election because the Tories are determined to lose it 😀

[ichkeria]

Labour don't have to hold Mid Bedfordshire in 2024 to inflict a big electoral defeat.

Predictably the right of the party are claiming the low turnout shows that voters want a different politics: ie the politics of far right populism. If the tithes go down that road they'll do even worse. Try to copy the Reform Party, who probably stopped them clinging on last night, and they'll lose votes to the centre. Their only faint hope is to plough on and hope for the best. Boris Johnson had a simple popular slogan in 2019 but that was a different situation.  They're now fighting the past 13 years of their own government and they can't change history.

[anneasquith]

09,42 am. Is it ,? where is the evidence of that stastitic

[Untitled]

"they'll lose votes to the centre. "

and how many votes are really left at the centre? i have my doubts

[Mozz71]

//Well in order to get elected we know that Labour must not be real Labour.//

They just need to be different from the current mob of thieves.

[Old_Geezer]

No one should welcome one incompetent lot taking over from another. We need a sea change and get a government that puts the nation, it's citizens, and the good of our society first.

[mushroom25]

perhaps unfortunate for the government was winning Uxbridge, which gave them the false sense that what the wider electorate wanted was more Tufton Street policies. they will have lived and learned - maybe, but maybe not.

[jourdain2]

Here, here! O_G.   I feel exactly the same - how to achieveit?

[Khandro]

Great vote for Reform UK;

'Reform UK 'delivering phase one' of plan to oust Labour after Tories' by-election blow'.

Bring it on!😮

[ichkeria]

Old Geezer wants some alien craft to descent bringing a mysteriously perfect set of politicians.

Khandro seens to think that Reform UK have a plan to oust Labour, when as I've pointed out twice already, they handed both these seats to Labour last night. And things can only get worse as they siphon off more Tory votes in constituency after constituency. Never nearly enough to win of course.