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Trump Indicted... What Next?
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donald trump has been indicted for, among other things, conspiracy to defraud the united states due to his efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election
it alleges that he tried to open sham fraud investigations to delegitimise the result and that he attempted to persuade mike pence to discount electoral college votes for joe biden
Trump has been summoned to appear in court on thursday.
what happens if they find him guilty? will things get violent?
donald trump has been indicted for, among other things, conspiracy to defraud the united states due to his efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election
it alleges that he tried to open sham fraud investigations to delegitimise the result and that he attempted to persuade mike pence to discount electoral college votes for joe biden
Trump has been summoned to appear in court on thursday.
what happens if they find him guilty? will things get violent?
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Are people on here seriously trying to defend Trump?
well he allowed a defence ( In AB, this is why the regicides of Edward II were later acquitted, ( he of the red hot poker) - they were not allowed a defence. And even in 1350 this was just not on. The Treason Act 1351 was brought in to LIMIT the numbers caught by common law treason (*). This does make the word "indefensible" without a use.
His defence " seems to be" that he won the election. This has been tried and rejected even by trump appointee judges.
AND
he acted in good faith on advice given by lawyers
Both of which wont get up and run ( they say - dicunt, ferunt, sozza a little Latin there, Naomi).
dont delete post 24-30 - wanton stupid and off point.
gormlessness should have its day on AB
well he allowed a defence ( In AB, this is why the regicides of Edward II were later acquitted, ( he of the red hot poker) - they were not allowed a defence. And even in 1350 this was just not on. The Treason Act 1351 was brought in to LIMIT the numbers caught by common law treason (*). This does make the word "indefensible" without a use.
His defence " seems to be" that he won the election. This has been tried and rejected even by trump appointee judges.
AND
he acted in good faith on advice given by lawyers
Both of which wont get up and run ( they say - dicunt, ferunt, sozza a little Latin there, Naomi).
dont delete post 24-30 - wanton stupid and off point.
gormlessness should have its day on AB
Err I haven't read any "support" for Trump on the thread There are questions about the Biden history of corruption and cover up though. This must trigger the hard of comprehension I suppose. Another thing to consider is that Trump will need to be found guilty and does not need to prove his innocence. Biden on the other hand has to prove his innocence as he is assumed guilty if he is impeached. That is why Congress and the machinery that enables it is dragging its heels and the prosecution of Trump is being hastened. I commented earlier that the lawyers are gradually seizing control of our political procedures and have the feeling that some are happy with that because it suits their purpose ... for now.
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// Biden on the other hand has to prove his innocence as he is assumed guilty if he is impeached. //
I'm not sure that's true, but I'd be happy to be corrected on this point. What is true, at least, is that in order to secure a conviction following impeachment a two-thirds majority (67+) of the Senate have to vote "guilty", otherwise there's an acquittal.
In practice, this means that Biden will be safe for the same reason that Trump was, if there is a vote to impeach in the House.
I'm not sure that's true, but I'd be happy to be corrected on this point. What is true, at least, is that in order to secure a conviction following impeachment a two-thirds majority (67+) of the Senate have to vote "guilty", otherwise there's an acquittal.
In practice, this means that Biden will be safe for the same reason that Trump was, if there is a vote to impeach in the House.
I told you the other day that if you persist I will remove your posts.
just seen this: I agree that mods should not use their powers to threaten fun posters poking a little fun at the high and mighty.
otherwise wd be an abuse of power.
Is there perhaps a latin tag for this?
yes - nemo iudex in sua causa - no one should be a judge in his own cause - oops I k now what will happen
and Naomi's script graphically and accurately shows why.
yes yes, this comment is within the rules, as it concerns LLaw ( roman law I admit) but hey I have to squeeze a little Latin in,
just seen this: I agree that mods should not use their powers to threaten fun posters poking a little fun at the high and mighty.
otherwise wd be an abuse of power.
Is there perhaps a latin tag for this?
yes - nemo iudex in sua causa - no one should be a judge in his own cause - oops I k now what will happen
and Naomi's script graphically and accurately shows why.
yes yes, this comment is within the rules, as it concerns LLaw ( roman law I admit) but hey I have to squeeze a little Latin in,
no or yes itch
everyone think he will pardon himself
or short circuit the prosecutions
which is fun as it would be obvious presidential interference in the judicial process of the greatest country on earth
which Trump is complaining about
I presume - you heard it here first - that the originalist Supreme Court as it now is, will say he cant ( pardon himself) as that was NOT the intention of the original framers of said constitution
everyone think he will pardon himself
or short circuit the prosecutions
which is fun as it would be obvious presidential interference in the judicial process of the greatest country on earth
which Trump is complaining about
I presume - you heard it here first - that the originalist Supreme Court as it now is, will say he cant ( pardon himself) as that was NOT the intention of the original framers of said constitution
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