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When Will Uk Courts Start Taking Knife Crime Seriously?
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A TEEN murdered a schoolboy with a machete while on bail from two courts for possessing zombie knives.
Firstly why was he on bail and secondly why only 19 years? He took a life he should lose his, if he cant swing then he should be permanently locked up.
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Firstly why was he on bail and secondly why only 19 years? He took a life he should lose his, if he cant swing then he should be permanently locked up.
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//Barry, and where is the money coming from to build the 20 extra prisons we would probably need?//
Yes, this one is trotted out every time. There are two things here the first is the most important one. How much is a life worth? If you dont care or consider some peoples lives are not worth ver much then maybe you have an argument on the cost.
The second point is it is estimated the cost of each murder is circa £2m, that mounts up quickly.
Of course if the punishments were harder there would undoubtedly be a reduction, some would be discouraged and of the rest they would be incarcerated and so wouldn't be re-offending.
Yes, this one is trotted out every time. There are two things here the first is the most important one. How much is a life worth? If you dont care or consider some peoples lives are not worth ver much then maybe you have an argument on the cost.
The second point is it is estimated the cost of each murder is circa £2m, that mounts up quickly.
Of course if the punishments were harder there would undoubtedly be a reduction, some would be discouraged and of the rest they would be incarcerated and so wouldn't be re-offending.
string em up i say the scum of society the literal bottom of the barrel these are the people who bring down our system and image these are the people that are feared these are the people we should just wipe off the face of the earth for as cheaply as possible people who can put a knife into another body are psychotically lost
//I fear it would be a lot more tax Barry//
As a (very rough) rule of thumb, a new prison costs about £1m per inmate to build. If it was decided to accommodate an extra 20,000 inmates (increasing the current capacity by about 25%) it would therefore cost £20bn. This cost would obviously be spread over a number of years. Let’s say 5 years, so £4bn a year. The government plans to spend £1,200bn in the current year, so £4bn is comparatively small beer.
An added factor here is that neither judges nor magistrates have instructions to avoid sending those convicted to prison because there is lack of space (in the same way that they would not be expected to send more to prison if there was spare capacity). If you look at the sentencing guidelines for possession of bladed articles and other offensive weapons, you will see there is plenty of scope for non-custodial sentences:
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You will also note (from “Step 3) that the court has a duty to impose a minimum sentence of 6 months custody for a second or subsequent offence unless there are exceptional circumstances not to do so.
//'I had a reasonable excuse to have it'
Even when you were well inland?//
You don’t need an excuse (reasonable or otherwise) to possess a knife which is not prohibited by the legislation. It is perfectly legal to possess a folding pocket knife provided the blade does not exceed three inches in length.
//why was he on bail?//
The Bail Act says that a defendant is entitled to bail unless it can be shown that he will either:
- Abscond (i.e. not turn up in court)
- Interfere with the course of justice (in particular, intimidate witnesses)
- Commit further offences
By “shown” it means there must be proof or a very strong suspicion (usually supported by evidence). Of course we don’t know at what stage this creature was granted bail and what was known about him at that time.
As a (very rough) rule of thumb, a new prison costs about £1m per inmate to build. If it was decided to accommodate an extra 20,000 inmates (increasing the current capacity by about 25%) it would therefore cost £20bn. This cost would obviously be spread over a number of years. Let’s say 5 years, so £4bn a year. The government plans to spend £1,200bn in the current year, so £4bn is comparatively small beer.
An added factor here is that neither judges nor magistrates have instructions to avoid sending those convicted to prison because there is lack of space (in the same way that they would not be expected to send more to prison if there was spare capacity). If you look at the sentencing guidelines for possession of bladed articles and other offensive weapons, you will see there is plenty of scope for non-custodial sentences:
https:/
You will also note (from “Step 3) that the court has a duty to impose a minimum sentence of 6 months custody for a second or subsequent offence unless there are exceptional circumstances not to do so.
//'I had a reasonable excuse to have it'
Even when you were well inland?//
You don’t need an excuse (reasonable or otherwise) to possess a knife which is not prohibited by the legislation. It is perfectly legal to possess a folding pocket knife provided the blade does not exceed three inches in length.
//why was he on bail?//
The Bail Act says that a defendant is entitled to bail unless it can be shown that he will either:
- Abscond (i.e. not turn up in court)
- Interfere with the course of justice (in particular, intimidate witnesses)
- Commit further offences
By “shown” it means there must be proof or a very strong suspicion (usually supported by evidence). Of course we don’t know at what stage this creature was granted bail and what was known about him at that time.
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