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Ok I Know You Are Annoyed We Left.....but Really?

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ToraToraTora | 22:17 Tue 04th Apr 2023 | News
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65180538
...this is pure vindictive jobsworthery.
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Weird. "All this is due to Brexit. The way I see it she's lived here for 19 years this year." No, it has nothing to do with Brexit and everything to do with decisions made by the Swedish government and it's establishment using Brexit as an excuse for their actions. Someone is probably only acting under orders, that must be obeyed without question. A member of the...
10:05 Wed 05th Apr 2023
Just refuse to move her. Would they really risk the world scorn being seen to forcibly remove her? I doubt it.
if all she needed was a passport, why didnt they get one?
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from the article:
"Her family said her application was rejected because she did not have a valid British passport - which they said she did not need as she could not travel due to her poor health - and despite sick notes from doctors."
If they said she needed a passport to remain, even if there was no intention to use it, why was one not obtained for her?
If she doesn't have a passport how can she travel?

I'd suggest the time honoured 'it'll be fine' and 'what are they going to do, kick her out?' stuff was in play.

Some countries don't care where TV cameras are pointed.
"on Friday the family were told by the British embassy in Stockholm that the police had been in touch “pressing” it to find a care home in the UK.

“It is impossible to say how long it will take but when we have found a care home willing to receive your mum, the police will give us a travel date and we will have to issue an emergency passport,” an official at the embassy told the Pooles."

Perhaps if the family had contacted the Embassy earlier, the problems could have been avoided but I'm wondering if the Embassy could have sped up the process for a renewal passport.
Well there's a big push on:

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/immigration/article/2022/12/08/sweden-launches-hunt-for-undocumented-migrants_6007025_144.html

Sweden, it seems, has around 300,000 failed asylum seekers whom they are seeking to trace and deport. Most have disappeared into a "parallel society." Perhaps Mrs Poole's family should ensure she does likewise:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/freylindsay/2020/02/11/sweden-has-a-problem-sending-asylum-seekers-back/
Weird.

"All this is due to Brexit. The way I see it she's lived here for 19 years this year."

No, it has nothing to do with Brexit and everything to do with decisions made by the Swedish government and it's establishment
using Brexit as an excuse for their actions. Someone is probably only acting under orders, that must be obeyed without question.

A member of the UK government should contact the Swedish government to point out the injustice, and how Sweden's action looks to the rest of the world. Surely a little diplomacy can settle it.
OG, as the family knew a valid UK passport was needed, it would have made sense for them to apply for one but they chose not to.
And this post comes from someone that claims we now have our sovereignty back, thanks to Brexit.
Well, I'd hazard a guess that many other countries now have that same right.

Cake and eat it??
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Did you read the thread 1ozzy? or did you just decide to troll it? When did we have sovereignty over Sweden? Wake up the brain cell me old china.
Every nation should have sovereignty but with it comes a duty to run things in a moral fashion.

This isn't about whether someone is told they need a passport that is no use to them, in the past. This is about doing the right thing in the present.
If she needed to have a valid UK passport in order to remain, the family could have sorted that out and then argued the rights and wrongs about the process.
Personally I cant see a problem with Sweden. The family didnt get their house in order, could easily have got a passport and shouldnt you have one anyway if in a foreign country?

And I wonder who is paying for her care?
//Sweden, it seems, has around 300,000 failed asylum seekers whom they are seeking to trace and deport.//

Good on them. We should do the same. Pronto.
Yet another Brexit benefit - they just keep on coming.
Apparently, the action to deport Mrs Poole has been "paused":

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65196484

//Yet another Brexit benefit - they just keep on coming.//

A crass remark if ever there was one.
Yet another Brexit benefit - they just keep on coming.
//A crass remark if ever there was one.//

NJ - have you never heard of irony; one definition of which is an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

Brexiteers promised us sunny uplands, no negatives as a result of Brexit; and we have got the opposite – an absolute disaster for the UK. Yet many Brexiteers continue to profess what a success it is, despite the bleeding obvious.
//…have you never heard of irony;//

Yes I have. As it happens, I fully support Sweden’s ability to decide who stays within its borders and who does not. That’s what normal countries do. Alas there are 400-odd million people over whom they cannot exercise that right. But it’s a pity they did not exercise it more diligently when it allowed tens of thousands of young single foreign men to enter and remain there, leading to widespread problems in some of their larger cities.

However, that is not the point I am making. All countries exercising such rights need also to exercise compassion and to choose a 74 year old lady suffering from Alzheimer’s does not paint them in a good light and I would criticise the UK authorities if they did something similar. Of course it is an ideal example chosen by those unhappy at the UK’s departure from the EU to demonstrate their argument. That’s why it’s crass.

//Brexiteers promised us sunny uplands, no negatives as a result of Brexit;…//

I’m a Brexiteer but you shouldn’t include me in that statement because I promised nothing of the sort. For one thing I was not in a position to promise anything and nor was anybody else (including politicians). As I have said many times, anybody who cast their vote in the referendum based on what politicians had told (or promised) them was foolish. For my part, as I have also said many times, Brexit has been a resounding success for one single reason - the UK is no longer a member of the pernicious, protectionist organisation that is the European Union. Anything else is just noise which will abate in time. But you already know all of this – you just need reminding now and then.

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