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Hunt For On-The-Run Asylum Seeker
gobsmacked is not the word, begining of a giant iceberg for the uk, sadly we will become like sweden, and there rape explosion let alone gangsterism, anyone disagree.
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After the British defeat of the French at the Battle of Quiberon Bay (1759), from the 18th & early 19th century, Britain really did 'rule the waves'. The British navy had complete power & total control of all the oceans of the world and now it can't even stop a few rubber dinghies from crossing the channel !
// Why do you want them here. Zebo? //
My following remarks are only relevant upto the 27th July 2022;
Firstly, anyone who would make such a perilous crossing in an overcrowded dinghy must be in dire staits.
Therefore it is only right and fair, those that made it to the UK, have their cases heard. Despite what some OPs think, this was the right course of action for the British authorities to take.
One cannot claim asylum outside of the UK.
So, call it exploitation of British laws or whatever, but someone found a loophole. That is, British immigration laws did not cover, where in the event, migrants being transported across the English channel and upon reaching these shores, were entitled to claim asylum.
The process that follows, in determining whether a visa should be granted is painfully slow. However, it is only just, that the system is allowed to roll out. I think everyone on AB will side with me when I say, those that do not meet the criteria ought to be dismissed forthwith.
The comments below are applicable from the 28th July and hitherto;
This has only just come to my light.
The government introduced the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 (NABA). Under section 40 of the act, it is difficult for a person to arrive in the UK without a visa. As there is no such thing as an ‘asylum visa’, this law will apply to almost all asylum seekers entering the UK.
IMPORTANT BIT !
From 28th July 2022 onwards, anybody who enters the UK (without a visa) and claims asylum will be going against this law.
This offence carries a maximum sentence of 4 years (5 years for people who re-enter the UK in breach of a deportation order.
Togo alluded to this in his last post.
So then, the question is now, will our government have the political will to stand by its own legislation?
My following remarks are only relevant upto the 27th July 2022;
Firstly, anyone who would make such a perilous crossing in an overcrowded dinghy must be in dire staits.
Therefore it is only right and fair, those that made it to the UK, have their cases heard. Despite what some OPs think, this was the right course of action for the British authorities to take.
One cannot claim asylum outside of the UK.
So, call it exploitation of British laws or whatever, but someone found a loophole. That is, British immigration laws did not cover, where in the event, migrants being transported across the English channel and upon reaching these shores, were entitled to claim asylum.
The process that follows, in determining whether a visa should be granted is painfully slow. However, it is only just, that the system is allowed to roll out. I think everyone on AB will side with me when I say, those that do not meet the criteria ought to be dismissed forthwith.
The comments below are applicable from the 28th July and hitherto;
This has only just come to my light.
The government introduced the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 (NABA). Under section 40 of the act, it is difficult for a person to arrive in the UK without a visa. As there is no such thing as an ‘asylum visa’, this law will apply to almost all asylum seekers entering the UK.
IMPORTANT BIT !
From 28th July 2022 onwards, anybody who enters the UK (without a visa) and claims asylum will be going against this law.
This offence carries a maximum sentence of 4 years (5 years for people who re-enter the UK in breach of a deportation order.
Togo alluded to this in his last post.
So then, the question is now, will our government have the political will to stand by its own legislation?
If you dont like History as it is,
rewrite it !
After the British defeat of the French at the Battle of Quiberon Bay (1759), from the 18th & early 19th century, Britain really did 'rule the waves'.
NO, Trafalgar 1805
and living in Germany, you should know that the reputation was shattered at.... Jutland 1915 - "there is something wrong with our bloody ships today" - AND Beatty's failure to follow up and sink the(Imperial) German Navy.
There was unrestricted travel within the British Empire then too
rewrite it !
After the British defeat of the French at the Battle of Quiberon Bay (1759), from the 18th & early 19th century, Britain really did 'rule the waves'.
NO, Trafalgar 1805
and living in Germany, you should know that the reputation was shattered at.... Jutland 1915 - "there is something wrong with our bloody ships today" - AND Beatty's failure to follow up and sink the(Imperial) German Navy.
There was unrestricted travel within the British Empire then too
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time for the ECHR charter was withdrawn .... it can't be that difficult.
yes it is
First of all you have to get your courts right ( we have had all this before but ( yawm) it bears repetition until someone hears it)
time for the ECHR charter was withdrawn and ours put in place,
The ECHR is European Court of Human Rights. (1)
The one we have withdrawn from ( but not from previous judgements when we were in the EU ) is the European Court of Justice
(1) we had no intention to withdraw from as we er invented the treaty on which it is based - universal declaration of human rights. It means abrogating a treaty ( big deal)
we did withdraw from the European Court of Justice - which ensures that EU law is uniformly applied across the union
the clue is in the name.
Yeah yeah, during Brexit, TTT was full of it over human rights and never quite said -" everything TTT (I) say on human rights is wrong you know." - so people lied over Brexit. So what ? Queen Elizabeth is dead.
TTT now freely admits he got his knickers knotted over that one
yes it is
First of all you have to get your courts right ( we have had all this before but ( yawm) it bears repetition until someone hears it)
time for the ECHR charter was withdrawn and ours put in place,
The ECHR is European Court of Human Rights. (1)
The one we have withdrawn from ( but not from previous judgements when we were in the EU ) is the European Court of Justice
(1) we had no intention to withdraw from as we er invented the treaty on which it is based - universal declaration of human rights. It means abrogating a treaty ( big deal)
we did withdraw from the European Court of Justice - which ensures that EU law is uniformly applied across the union
the clue is in the name.
Yeah yeah, during Brexit, TTT was full of it over human rights and never quite said -" everything TTT (I) say on human rights is wrong you know." - so people lied over Brexit. So what ? Queen Elizabeth is dead.
TTT now freely admits he got his knickers knotted over that one
PP, at the beginning of the 18 cent. Britain & France were roughly even in size, by the end, Britain had 500 ships & France 200, Quiberon was a major defeat for the French, from which they never recovered, then came the Napoleonic wars by which time Britain's advantage was too great & Trafalgar put the top hat on it.
I'm married to a historian & don't forget it! :0)
I'm married to a historian & don't forget it! :0)
// Then why don’t they claim asylum the proper way? //
To reiterate, one cannot claim asylum from outside the UK.
There is no visa which allows people to enter the UK in order to claim asylum. This means that most people have no choice but to enter the UK without permission!
Immigration control now rests with the NABA Act 2022, section 40.
and the political will of both government and those authorities to enforce it.
Of course, none of this would be necessary if we had the co-operation of the French.
To reiterate, one cannot claim asylum from outside the UK.
There is no visa which allows people to enter the UK in order to claim asylum. This means that most people have no choice but to enter the UK without permission!
Immigration control now rests with the NABA Act 2022, section 40.
and the political will of both government and those authorities to enforce it.
Of course, none of this would be necessary if we had the co-operation of the French.
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