Have The Tories Burnt There Bridges

[fender62]

maybe rishi would have been a better bet, or a conspiracy within to topple the tories aka brexit.
or an economic formula that should have played out from boris, labour are deadned useless party, to militant and to woke, perhaps it's time for a new party, with actual talent and new ideas and not the same old, leave out the save the planet mob less we freeze to death, oh need more insulation err yea i got that, house still gets cold, back in the real world, tory prospects ?

[ichkeria]

If I was a Tory I think I would be best advised to "know my enemy"
Your assessment of Labour is a bit out of date.
Maybe after 12 years, and several reinventions, the Tories thought they were invincible and that the opposition was uncapable of victory,
Thinking that is the first step to defeat.

[naomi24]

The problem is after 12 years the Tories didn’t think. Yes, they’ve burnt their bridges. Never will their astounding success at the last election be repeated.

[fender62]

naomi, i will never trust labour..never, this day nad age we have to many radicals that hide wthin labour, better the devil you know erm.
i see and hear a lt of labour are anti british literally, like change school curriculums, i love british history, i see no pride, but lets turn it into some combobulated, white bad asian black good, always been here, and that is not true, we see it in tv films commercials etc, rubbish our past and for what, we have seen muslims hindu attacking each other, blm riots, change erm change nothing, like it or leave, most are guests anyway...

[Old_Geezer]

Rishi doesn't appeal mainly because he was one of the group who triggered Boris' downfall. Difficult to pick anyone suitable as PM, but for what it's worth, both Braverman and Badenoch seemed to make encouraging noises. However what one says out of power doesn't always translate to what they try when in power.

[FatticusInch]

As I perpetually ask and never get an answer, can ANY Tory voter tell me how a Labour government or any other would ge worse than what we’ve had for the last 3 years?
Any of you?
What exactly has the Tory government done that has been so astronomically fantastic?
How much better off are we and where exactly is our standing in the world is right now?

[Old_Geezer]

I think there are enough posts in various places to have answered your question.

[fender62]

Old_Geezer, i hear ya, maybe thye should bring boris back, erm field day for labour woke militants, or a military junta and declare national security, one way of getting rid of all the illegals and criminals in one swoop...swift, maybe france will listen let alone the eu.

[tomus42]

Tory prospects. They won't lead the next government.

It will take them some time to recover. They can never again say that the economy is safe in their hands, which was almost their USP. Truss/Kwarteng have blown that forever because this will be spoken about for decades just like the winter of discontent was for Labour.

Even the Tories are sick of the Tories at this point.

[Peter Pedant]

why are we talking about the Tory future when they dont have any?
( Manny Rat in The mouse and his child)

coulda woulda shoulda as Judge Judy might say - the electorate will have THEIR say later

[Peter Pedant]

Even the Tories are sick of the Tories at this point.
how true - how true
even a sixteen year old school leaver ( = standard Beeb hack)) was saying this as comment on the Beeb
and as this - they can never get elected
.
something posh, about parties at war wiv demselfs...

[Peter Pedant]

Labour have repeatedly trashed the economy when they got into power

1964-66 - 13 y of Tory misrule worked
Callaghan was terrible
and Blair not much better

and yes I think Labour will get in, on " Time for a change, give us a go, we cant do worse"

[fripfrip]

Iain Duncan Smith would get my vote,i dread to think if labour ever get back in power,some of these younger voters need to look back at the 70's and see what a total mess they made of the country when in power.

[jourdain2]

Like Frip frip - I dread the thought of Labour in power again, especially as they would be sustained by the Lib Dems, Greens and (horror of horrors) the SNP - or such of them as remain after the next Gen. Election.

[FatticusInch]

So that’s a no then, just sackcloth and ashes for the self-inflicted demise of the Tory party and it’s government.
Never mind, you’ll have at least a decade to wallow in self pity.
When Labour will I’ll be the first to remind you of that oft-used phrase on here:
You lost, get over it.

[haras2]

No, they have burnt THEIR
bridges
Yes, I went to a proper school

[FatticusInch]

*win not will

[naomi24]

Fender, like you, I will never trust Labour again - Tony Blair taught me that - but now I have a real dilemma because I don’t trust the disloyal and self-serving either - especially when the prove themselves to be complete imbeciles. From a truly outstanding victory at the last election the Conservatives, eager to make what they thought were the right noises and stupid enough to be influenced by toxic media, have thrown this county to the dogs and we now have an impotent, unfit for office PM and a cobbled together chancellor running the country. They are a complete and utter embarrassment.

[tomus42]

As I said, even the Tories are sick of the Tories.

[naomi24]

'Sick' of them isn't accurate, Tomus, but something quite different. Let down, saddened, appalled, angry …. this isn't even about left or right politics any more. It's gone way beyond that.

In the short time since Boris's departure this country has gone from a strong and influential nation to a floundering non-entity quite wantonly set adrift. Utterly unforgiveable.

[jim360]

Well, if you can't vote Labour, and obviously the LibDems are out, and the Tories no longer stand for what you want...

I guess that leaves the Green Party! :P