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youngmafbog | 14:14 Thu 16th Dec 2021 | News
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With the bookies favouring the Lib Dems

What is your prediction for the Shropshire election?

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Tories, but with a much reduced majority
Not sure but I think that Labour will come last of the three main parties.
Cons...I'll have a ton on it with anyone on here daft enough to take the bet.
no confidence in this but I think a Tory hold with reduced majority. Though the Lib non dems could well pick up a protest vote so I have no idea really.
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I must say, I wouldnt put a penny on the result(apart from maybe labour not winning it).

I am hoping the Tories loose it, one seat less wont affect the working majority and it just may be enough to prompt enough letters to the 1922 committee to get shot of Johnson.

Then we can have a decent leader with Conservative values and go on to win the foreseeable elections in the future, totally putting paid to Labour. Then hopefully a new Party will emerge from the ashes of labour that can be a decent opposition.
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Then we can have a decent leader with Conservative values //
Who?
Tory hold by a few hundred, down from a 23,000 majority.
No idea (bookies' odds don't really count) but there is a very good chance the Tories will go down, unthinkable as it might seem. N Shropshire is about as Tory as it gets.
A combination of apathy, disgust, the Owen Paterson factor, all the other factors etc etc.
I believe polls showed the Tories just hanging on.
One thing I would bet on is: it won't lead to Johnson's departure.
Not of itself, and not yet.

My prediction: by far the largest percentage of the electorate will be the ones who don't vote ...
Labour say they are not putting any effort into fighting this seat. Despite coming second in 2019, they do not think they have any chance of winning, but know the LibDems do. So they are trying not to split the anti Government vote.

I was talking to a Tory activist the other day, (he claimed he had been in the constituency campaigning) and he was really pessimistic, saying they will lose by 3,000. I can’t see that happening.
Anything can happen in a by-election.I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Tories lose by a significant margin.
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//Who?//

As I have said for a while, my choice is Sunak. However Truss is up there as a potential and could be ok and it might be useful to have a remainer in to draw a line under Brexit and move forward.
//it might be useful to have a remainer in to draw a line under Brexit and move forward.//

Just how would having a remainer as PM have any effect on the few outstanding issues from Brexit? (e.g.NI protocol)
hi itch
Eric Lubbock (*) did it at Orpington (*) in 1962 (*)
but did NOT lead a liberal ( as it was then) revival

later Lord Avebury which he didnt earn himself by pubic service (+) but inherited from his Dad

(*) who all day den?
(+) typo but I quite liked it - days of Christine Keeler
anyone know when they call it?
polls closes at 2200 h

I was gonna go and canvass with a placard- - psephesthe allylov - ancient greek as I know it for - " vote for someone else"
But there are fourteen other crayzies and I perceived I would be lost in a crowd

a true bet - I wdnt put money on it - -
“ Truss is up there as a potential and could be ok and it might be useful to have a remainer in to draw a line under Brexit”

Although a Labour supporter I’m happy to acknowledge there are many decent candidates among the ruling party.
Truss however is surely not one of them.
The word “vacuous” could have been invented for her.
Anything could happen Peter.
It would also not surprise me if the Lib Dems won handsomely
like ymb I would say Sunak. I gather he's in California at the moment, - possibly distancing himself from any electoral upset. He seems both competent and honest, which is more than I can say for almost anyone else in government.
The Lib Dems
Wot YMB said at 1.28pm.

I’ve been a Tory voter all my life, but I’ve lost faith with BJ over Covid, so
I’m hoping for a bloody nose.

I fully accept he’s been dealt a crappy hand, but I’ve had enough of him “following the science” when the scenarios (resulting in panic by the weak) have consistently and with boring regularity been wildly wrong.

I expect him to take the science into consideration, and then ignore it if it screws the economy.

I know that’s anathema to the Covidians who love the lockdowns and restrictions, but I don’t care. Living life normally top trumps their pathetic fears.

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