Donald Tops The Polls

[Khandro]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1495809/joe-biden-donald-trump-poll-us-news-latest

I can't think of any former leader doing that & in such a short time too.
Afghanistan debacle & now 11,000 Haitians just waded across the Rio Grande in to Texas, go figure! as they say.

[Mozz71]

I have to agree with Naomi. It's a nothing achievement as she would not have won an election to gain presidency. If she wins an election in the future, then that would be a massive achievement.

[Ken4155]

"I can't think of any former leader doing that....."
Have you the figures for the polls on President's v ex-President's popularity through recent times, Khandro. Just so we can compare them ourselves:-/

[naomi24]

I think the Americans - and the world - have very quickly realised that Biden is a disaster.

[Mozz71]

I think they're realising that his age is catching up with him. Still, better than his predecessor.

[naomi24]

That's a matter of opinion.

[LadyCG]

Gosh, does anyone else think that Biden looks like a blinkin' cadaver?

[Hopkirk]

They could do with another JFK.

[ichkeria]

It’s a bit of a false story as you can’t really compare the rating of a person who doesn’t actually have to do anything with that of a President in office. I’d imagine Biden’s rating during the Trump presidency would have consistently been above the president’s. And that also would have been meaningless.
Nonetheless the fact that 48% of Americans “approve” of a man who denies climate change, tried to have a democratic election overturned by his VP, and is openly motivated by “revenge” for a possible comeback.
Is depressing.

[naomi24]

//I’d imagine Biden’s rating during the Trump presidency would have consistently been above the president’s. //

Me too because the American people could only imagine what a Biden presidency might look like. Now they know.

[Khandro]

ken //Danny, i believe you are mis-remembering. Had Trump still been in power, he intended to bring the troops out as early as May.//

True, but that was part of the Doha deal which had safeguards. sleepy joe when elected in the meantime reneged on that deal & later simply pulled the troops out - I don't need explain the ineptitude of that action do I?

'The deal - secured by Donald Trump and signed in Doha, Qatar, in February 2020 - committed to the withdrawal of US and allied (including British) troops from Afghanistan by May 2021.

In the same deal were broad obligations on the Taliban to take steps to prevent groups including al-Qaeda from threatening the security of the US and its allies.'

[anneasquith]

“” the Americans and the world “ who made you spokesperson Naomi ?

[naomi24]

No one made me spokesperson, anne, but I can't say I've seen much praise for him. What about you?.

[pat2604]

anneasquithIF, JB becomes unfit for office, the party have a very credible Vice President in Kamala Harris .

Agree Anne

[youngmafbog]

//the party have a very credible Vice President in Kamala Harris .//

Are you serious, this lady was thrown out of the presidential selection in the primaries (by her own party). If she gets into power there will be all hell to pay.

And to date she has not been much cop has she(and thats ignoring the hyena laughs).

[Mozz71]

I think most of the world outside America feel much safer without Trump in charge. What the feeling is inside America remains to be seen. As I said before, it's irrelevant right now, as Trump isn't getting back in for the next few years, and a hell of a lot could happen in that time.

[ichkeria]

If Trump were to stand again it’s quite possible another Republican would stand against him, splitting the right wing vote (and WOULD of course if Trump was the unofficial one)
It’s happened before, tho I can’t remember which way round.
And it’s not inconceivable it could happen again.

[dannyk13]

Do the Americans have the use of the vote of no confidence?

[Khandro]

Mozz //I think most of the world outside America feel much safer without Trump in charge.//

Trump didn't start any wars, which is more than can be said for most US presidents, and it was he who initiated the move to withdraw from Afghanistan.

[Mozz71]

"Not starting a war" shouldn't be a rule to measure a successful leader by. And as for the withdrawal, well, that hasn't put Afghanistan back under extremist control, potentially destabilising the whole area or anything has it?

Trump and Biden share responsibility for that, and for whatever happens as a result.

[naomi24]

I disagree. Biden is president. The buck stops with him.