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gulliver1 | 22:11 Thu 03rd Jun 2021 | News
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How many Abers really think that the UK will be unlocked on 21st of june
I think No. Anyone agree with me .
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LOL gulliver, it seems to be stationary at the moment but as we watch the antics of Delta variant in the next 3 weeks we will know in which direction our train will move...or otherwise.
My feelings are guiding me to no lifting of restrictions for the foreseeable future.
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The way things are going in the UK at the moment Unlocking on the 21st june would be the wrong move to make .
meanwhile back in the real world, businesses that are reliant on opening fully on the 21st June must be having a nervous breakdown.
I can't understand why they can't just get on with things, we will have to learn to live with covid for the foreseeable future, same as we do the flu, yes its more transmissible, but with a fair proportion of the country vaccinated then lets stop shilly shallying - if Boris reneges on his promise then who knows where that leaves him as a leader.
I hope the easing goes ahead but anyone who made plans for post June 21 was always taking a big risk
gulliver: "The way things are going in the UK at the moment Unlocking on the 21st june would be the wrong move to make ." - on what do you base that assessment?
"Show leadership Boris wait another 3/4 months before opening .You know it’s the wise thing to do."

I assume your comment was tongue in cheek?
Never listens to me anyway that Boris wan
Once again the people calling for the restrictions to be extended are missing vital points. It now really is "just to be on the safe side."

The trouble is "the safe side" is no longer safe. Fifty times as many people are now dying from cancer as from Covid. Many of them had delayed diagnoses because of the pandemic. Continuing with restrictions will mean more delayed diagnoses and delayed treatment. Covid is currently accounting for fewer than one in two hundred deaths. Many less serious but equally debilitating conditions are remaining untreated with a resultant huge effect on people's wellbeing.

As far as the economy goes, the hospitality sector is on a knife edge. Over 600,000 people have lost their jobs; more than 25,000 establishments have closed; those that have survived cannot break even with reduced capacity; the government is borrowing £1bn a day to fund the various "stay at home" schemes the taxpayer is paying for. As cosy as this might seem, eventually the excrement will hit the air conditioning as a result of all this and the money markets will prevail to restore some equilibrium to this ludicrous state of affairs.

This cannot go on a moment longer.
NJ.....quite correct and you have no argument with me on that point......as well of course on the effect on the economy.

We have in our midst a virus which has the capability of causing over a thousand deaths a day , producing even more virulent variants and in my opinion is putting two fingers up to the vaccines.
I personally think that the danger is being under reported by 5he media and that we are basically back to where we were last February. Long Covid is now becoming an issue and the disease is affecting and being transmitted by a much younger age group.
Prof Van Tam's light in the railway tunnel is still a long way away.
However ,your points are,as usual, well taken.

We can, lift all restrictions and live as though no threat existed....living with the virus as is commonly quoted.

You can't have it both ways,
Evening two jags. :-)
who you calling Prescott?
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Freedom come, Freedom Go . Looks like Boris in going to extend the lock down. OMG.
on what do you base that reasoning gully?
There will be some kind of a fudge where the country is released from lockdown, except for various parts of the country which aren't ...
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An extension of Lockdown by two weeks is reportedly being considered as Covid cases rise in the UK.
Cases have risren by 75% in two weeks.
Let's go back three weeks (to allow for "lag" between infections and hospitalisations/deaths). Since 14th May the 7 day average infection rate has risen by 80%. In that same time time, the number of people in hospital has dropped by 5% and the seven day average number of reported deaths has dropped by 20%. Meanwhile it's reported that around 70% of those who report to A&E and are discovered to have the "Indian Variant" do not need to spend even a single night in hospital.

This is simply not the same ball game as was evident in February. It doesn't matter how many new infections there are so long as those suffering from them do not need hospitalisation, become seriously ill or die.
NJ. the problem is that this germ keeps mutating and, until someone actually gets infected by it , no one can know what its effects might be.
I agree with NJ. From my point of view the only statistics relevant here are the number of serious illnesses and deaths solely attributable to Covid.
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Fingers crossed nothing serious happens between now and 21st.
I don't know if the Government will stick to their roadmap and lift all restrictions on the 21st but if i was as confident as you appear to be, Gully, i'd be biting TTT's hand off on his 66/1 offer. Not holding out for 100/1 are you ? :-/

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