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//Thank god most realise it's about maleness and not religion. // If 'maleness' is the fundamental problem we would see male names from an assortment of cultures on that list - but we don't. Those people who allegedly 'realise', consistently ignore the elephant in the room and are in denial - and denial of this on-going abuse does nothing to help the victims....
23:02 Wed 12th May 2021
TTT, 23:11... precisely. The risk is with males, not Muslims.
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pixie: "TTT, naomi.... you are seeing only Muslim names in the list, because you want to." - err the list is in the article, tell me which ones you'd like to bet are not Muslim Men?
"Again, how many of those 29 are women? How many paedophiles overall are women?" - clearly none, did you read the list?
//TTT, naomi.... you are seeing only Muslim names in the list, because you want to//

Pixie, so often you prove yourself incapable of coherent discussion. Read the list.

• Asad Ali, 37, of Brighouse, is charged with two counts of rape

• Ajmal Aziz, 39, of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape and attempted rape

• Mohammed Jangier, 44, of Halifax, is charged with rape

• Mohammed Asif, 36, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Harris Ahmed Butt, 37, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape and two counts of indecent assault

• Taukeer Butt, 36, of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape

• Muitasim Khan, 40, of Halifax, is charged with rape

• Mohammed Hamza, 47, of Halifax, is charged with rape

• Mohsin Mir, 40, of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape

• Javid Mir, 38, of Halifax, is charged with rape

• Haroon Saddique, 37, of Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape

• Zahir Iqbal, 41, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Sarfraz Rabnawaz, 35, of Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape

• Wajid Addalat, 43, of Halifax, is charged with rape

• Sajid Addalat, 45, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Nazim Hussain, 43, of Bradford, is charged with conspiracy to rape

• Nadeem Saddiqque, 43, of Sheffield, is charged with rape

• Saquab Hussain, 43, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Sadakat Ali, 48, of Bradford, is charged with rape

• Ziarab Mohammed, 48, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Imran Raja Yasin, 41, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Zulfiqar Ali, 40, of Bradford, is charged with two counts of rape

• Malik Abid Qadeer, 64, of Halifax, is charged with five counts of rape

• Kamran Amin, 45, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Mohammed Akhtar, 51, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Ali Zulfiqar, 38, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

• Shafiq Ali Rafiq, 40, of Dewsbury, is charged with two counts of rape

• Amir Shaban, 45, of Halifax, is charged with rape

• Sakeb Nazir, 36, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape
TTT and naomi. I saw the list. Again- how many were women?
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pixie: "TTT, 23:11... precisely. The risk is with males, not Muslims." - No that is not a logical step. Yes they are men but they are ALL muslims. I have answered your questions, now answer mine, if what you say is true then why, as naomi says, are they ALL muslims on that list, all of them, 100%? Why is it not an assortment ? Why no Stan Smith or Bob McKenzie? your turn.
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pixie: "TTT and naomi. I saw the list. Again- how many were women?" - for the third time none.
//The risk is with males, not Muslims.//

Time and time again you say that and then deny you've said it. Don't be ridiculous. Yes, men are more likely to offend but in these cases it is Muslim men - and that cannot be denied. This makes me really angry because in denying reality you are in effect defending the abuser - and for that you should be ashamed of yourself.
If it was good enough for Mohammed etc.
I have never denied that men are the most common abusers, naomi.
TTT, yes- it is a logical step, if you want causes, answers and hopefully, solutions.
And again, naomi, it is just the opposite. You are on full-side with these people, by allowing them to blame their religion, instead of taking personal responsibility. As if some Muslims just can't help themselves, bless them. It was what they're taught.
I will never, ever agree with that, with sane adults.
You are both, in this sense, disgusting. That you both try to blame a religion, you don't care about truth, but take the easy way out.
For goodness sake. The emperor is not wearing any clothes, he’s naked....capeesh?
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pixie: "You are both, in this sense, disgusting. That you both try to blame a religion, you don't care about truth, but take the easy way out." - what is the truth, all the nasty men? whose blaming a religion? They happen to be muslim but it's not islam that's doing it. When Millwall supporters beat up rival fans it's not the team doing it, is it? Think it through. Will you answer my question above? this one: "I have answered your questions, now answer mine, if what you say is true then why, as naomi says, are they ALL muslims on that list, all of them, 100%? Why is it not an assortment ? Why no Stan Smith or Bob McKenzie? your turn." - Disgusting? I'll tell you what's disgusting, that you defend these animals by blaming all men. That's like blaming all fish for shark attacks. Again I ask why is there no non muslim names in the list? - you're losing the plot love.
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gawd the lengths that some will go to to defend these savages, beggars belief.
Until it happens to them, or a loved on TTT.
slighty off topic, but what about the yazidi girls and women, and the rapes and murders in europe, and let's not forget all the other killings in europe and the uk, it's a very extreme political ideology aka religion, id say bordering on militant, as for the men ie abusers in the story, if you have contempt for secular values and women in a secular society, and your faith says, they are less then muslim women, as they are not of the book, you have a perfect storm.
angry men with desires they cannot fulfill at home, or perhaps some do, they see non muslim girls women as trash and be abused as they wish, remember the key is- not of the book.
David. //capeesh//

She doesn’t - and unless she makes the effort to extend her education beyond the psychobabble she talks, she never will,
TTT, i don't entirely understand your question tbh. As I said, the fact is, that males are far more prevalent with paedophilia, than "muslims" are. And if you won't acknowledge that, we will never solve it.
You have it entirely the wrong way around as well, between me and naomi. My belief is that all sane adults are entirely responsible for their own actions, no matter what.
Where naomi is happy to blame a "religion", as if they can't help themselves, as that is what they were taught.
Believe me, she is far more forgiving of their crimes than I am! And always hugely willing to excuse it as "religious"
I just don't see that as any reason or excuse myself.
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pixie, still waiting for your explanation as to why there are only muslim names on the list.
//She doesn’t - and unless she makes the effort to extend her education beyond the psychobabble she talks, she never will,//

I have no idea, naomi, but if that was to me- i am perfectly able and willing to explain anything that is beyond you.
TTT, you haven't yet explained why only male names? After you...
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pixie: "TTT, i don't entirely understand your question tbh." - it's very simple, if what you say is true then the names should be an assortement, why are they not?
"Where naomi is happy to blame a "religion", as if they can't help themselves, as that is what they were taught." - we have already explained that it's a trait of the men in the religion not the religion itself, like I said do you blame all fish for shark attacks?
"you haven't yet explained why only male names?" - I have explained it 3 times, this is the fourth, muslim women are themselves already pretty mush repressed, I accept for the fourth time that there are no women on the list. Do you accept that the whole list is muslim men?

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