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tomus42 | 12:54 Sun 08th Nov 2020 | News
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The Trump legal team organised a press conference outside the Four Seasons Landscape gardening company, apparently mistaking it for the Four Seasons luxury hotel.

My question is, with a crack team like this on the job, should we be worried about the election result being overturned?

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/trump-campaign-appears-to-mistakenly-book-car-park-outside-landscaping-firm-four-seasons-for-press-conference
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I have no axe to grind about individual school inspectors, good or bad, as they were doing their job but I have to agree with Gness that it was a box ticking exercise.
A well paid box-ticking exercise, Milo. For the first inspection in my school the inspectors' salaries would have totalled at least £8,000. I suspect more. Then of course there were expenses to be paid.

In the years when I couldn't be given money to replace old or buy new books for the school library my SENCO and I did so as best we could with our own money. I would have loved to have had a quarter of the money given to inspectors to spend on new books.
The children would have benefitted more from those books than they did from the over-paid stranger sitting at the back of the class with a clip-board.
I agree with you, Gness. I think the money could have been used in a much better way. All the schools that I have been associated with could have written their own report. The inspectors didn’t tell us anything that we didn’t already know.
Gness at 19.19 - if you want to speak in general terms, I would entirely agree with you, and so would my wife.

The system was set up by politicians to impress parents, and was often roundly abused by badly chosen individuals who were not only unfit for the role, but became power-hungry bullies as well.

But in every profession there are exceptions, and my wife was one of them. I say this because even though I am obviously biased, I know she was very well thought of and respected by a lot of the heads and schools she worked with.

She abhorred the general approach of many of her colleagues, and approached every school with a view to offering help and support, not nitpicking and bullying.

The organisation behaved true to form, when she was obliged to retire through I'll health, she didn't even get a 'thank you're from the organisation.

Yes, there were, and are,a lot of lousy Inspectors, but there were, and are,a lot of lousy teachers as well.

But not all of them, and you wouldn't be happy if I judged them all the same, and you'd be perfectly right not to.

So let's accept that every profession has it's bad people, but that doesn't mean all the people are bad.
Sunny Dave, I refer you to my response to gness - we can all generalise, and we are all being unfair when we do.
Indeed, Milo. We wanted the best for our children. For them to learn and enjoy learning and move on happily. It was insulting that people could come in thinking they'd know how to improve on what we were doing to our very best and successfully.

Of course there are bad teachers, Andy. Thankfully there are more great and inspiring teachers in it for the right reason.
Your wife may be a wonderful woman and in no way a nit-picker or bully. But I will always remain wary of anybody who decided to became an OFSTED inspector. It was never the right thing for anyone to do for so many reasons.
Gness, if you want to make an advance decision about a group of people you don't know based on what you perceive to be a bad career choice, then that's your privilege.

Based on considerable experience of your posts on here, I am disappointed to find that you are that shallow, and that's my privilege.
I'm fine with you calling me shallow, Andy if it pleases you.

I'm fine also with knowing I cared about the children I worked with and about education. I could have never left a not overly well paid job to join OFSTED and contribute to the taking of a shed load of money that would have been better spent on the children.
My wife left a well-paid job, she was head of a fee-paying prep school, she retired through I'll health. Watching the amount of time and effort she put into her inspections, I would judge her as underpaid.

Equating the money paid to inspectors as money taken from necessities is a notion based on emotion not reality, like saying losing hospital executives would free money to pay nurses.

You have a downer on the inspection system for reasons I have already agreed with.

But to tar everyone with the same brush is not fair.

Many people think teachers work nine till three with three months off - doesn't make it true though, does it.
Wife, dave.... do you have something to tell us?? X
I would agree that there were good and bad inspectors, as in any group of people. FOr my last inspection I woke up on the Monday totally unable to speak, I think my subject inspector was the only one who believed me, we didn't manage much conversation until the Thursday!
In another inspection I did a lesson with a low set of Year 9 pupils, it involved using compasses to accurately bisect angles and so on, everyone told me I was mad to even do it during inspection! It went quite well though, no-one was stabbed and they became quite accurate. The comment I got back though was Why did you ask them to do it again once they's done it? Any ideas of accuracy through practicing a skill were totally repudiated.
Many people think the booking of the venue was the result of a misunderstanding.
But when you think about it, it would be hard to Google a more fitting perfect venue.
A president that paid off a porn star, and has had 26 accusations of sexual misconduct made about him, and who has overseen nearly a quarter of a million Americans die of coronavirus.
How more fitting that this end of Trump event took place in a grubby car park between a cemetery and a *** shop.
Of course there are good and bad in every profession, Zebo. Neither am I saying that all inspectors were bad people. Just that they should not have taken part in that type of inspection.
To give weeks or months of warning that five or six people would be coming to spend a week in your school was beyond stupid.
An unannounced inspection by one or two well trained inspectors is the sensible and productive way to inspect.

Agreed, Skunk..... We did a google street view of the whole area.
It had to be a joker who'd been yelled at once too often..... :-)
Skunk??? Now that was a mistake!
gness - // Of course there are good and bad in every profession, Zebo. Neither am I saying that all inspectors were bad people. Just that they should not have taken part in that type of inspection. //

What do you suggest they should have done instead? Told the DFEE that they didn't fancy this particular format of inspection?

Somewhat of a career-stalling option, wouldn't you agree?
gness - At 01.48 I said this - // You have a downer on the inspection system for reasons I have already agreed with.

But to tar everyone with the same brush is not fair. //

At 12:17, zebo said this - // I would agree that there were good and bad inspectors, as in any group of people. //

At 15:19, you said this - // Of course there are good and bad in every profession, Zebo. Neither am I saying that all inspectors were bad people. //

I'm intrigued - when I argue that point you disagree with me, when I say it in the early hours, you ignore me, but when zebo says it in the afternoon, you are happy to agree.

I made the same point as zebo - why did you ignore me saying it, and then agree with zebo saying it?



I read that the hotel put out a message saying that there was no press conference planned from their location.
gness - // Of course there are good and bad in every profession, Zebo. Neither am I saying that all inspectors were bad people. Just that they should not have taken part in that type of inspection.
To give weeks or months of warning that five or six people would be coming to spend a week in your school was beyond stupid.
An unannounced inspection by one or two well trained inspectors is the sensible and productive way to inspect. //

That may be so, but inspectors don't get to pick the format or the timescales of their inspections, like all employees, and I am sure you would include yourself with this - they do what the DFEE tells them to do - as the employers, they have the right to do that, and inspectors, or teachers, who decline, are not likely to remain in post very long.
The booking was made to highlight compostal voting.
// THE first witness called by Donald Trump’s party at a news conference claiming widespread electoral fraud is a convicted sex offender, it has emerged.

Daryl Brooks, who acted as a poll watcher for the Republicans, served three years in prison for exposing himself to two girls aged seven and 11.

He spoke alongside Mr Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani at the press briefing outside Four Seasons Total Landscaping building. //

Cccrruunnnnchhh!!! - The car continues to crash.

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