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Manchester People - Do You Agree With Andy Burnham?
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i must confess i had no idea that regional mayors could disagree and refuse to compply with national instructions.
I must admit i'm a bit confused - i thought AB was a person who was calling for greater lockdown measures, but is now refusing to let GM go to tier 3.
I can't understand his logic of it being "unfair"
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i must confess i had no idea that regional mayors could disagree and refuse to compply with national instructions.
I must admit i'm a bit confused - i thought AB was a person who was calling for greater lockdown measures, but is now refusing to let GM go to tier 3.
I can't understand his logic of it being "unfair"
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It is worth remembering that Manchester didn’t want an elected mayor in the first place. In 2012 they were polled and
// The people of Manchester have voted against having a directly-elected mayor to run their city.
The referendum saw 48,593 people vote to retain the status quo, while 42,677 voted to have an elected mayor.
The poll had been notable for the lack of campaigning either in favour of an elected mayor or against one.
Manchester City Council leader Sir Richard Leese said a majority of almost 6,000 was "a very clear rejection" by the people of Greater Manchester. //
The Conservative Government took no notice of the referendum and imposed a mayoral election anyway, which Burnham won by a massive margin, Burnham got two thirds of the vote while the Conservative candidate got 22%.
// The people of Manchester have voted against having a directly-elected mayor to run their city.
The referendum saw 48,593 people vote to retain the status quo, while 42,677 voted to have an elected mayor.
The poll had been notable for the lack of campaigning either in favour of an elected mayor or against one.
Manchester City Council leader Sir Richard Leese said a majority of almost 6,000 was "a very clear rejection" by the people of Greater Manchester. //
The Conservative Government took no notice of the referendum and imposed a mayoral election anyway, which Burnham won by a massive margin, Burnham got two thirds of the vote while the Conservative candidate got 22%.
> Genuine question - if AB is a 'Labour' Mayor, how come he is going against what Keir Starmer is calling for?
I don't think he's against what Starmer is calling for, more against the (lack of) financial support his region is being offered if it goes that way. They'll go to Tier 3 if they're paid enough.
I don't think he's against what Starmer is calling for, more against the (lack of) financial support his region is being offered if it goes that way. They'll go to Tier 3 if they're paid enough.
Interesting to note that Transport for London received a £1.6 billion bail-out and will now get something like £60 million a week. So some Londoners - under-18s and over-60s - continue to get free transport.
If the government is serious about "levelling up" then anomalies like this need to be addressed. What age do the rest of the country get free bus travel? 66? Is there anything but the most basic of services in most places, particularly rural areas?
"i had no idea that regional mayors could disagree and refuse to comply with national instructions. " - they cannot, ultimately the Government will win. This is just the result of all the St Tony Devolution Cobras. Local Mayors kin devolved parliaments, perlease. Labour mayor defies Tory Government? Shocker! Burnham wants the country punished for Northern activities that's all.
Talking of political manoeuvering, has anybody else noticed Jeremy Hunt is positioning himself for when Boris gets kicked out?
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//So some Londoners - under-18s and over-60s - continue to get free transport.//
Londoners do not get free travel at age 60. They qualify for a "Freedom "Pass" when they reach the current women’s State Pension age. They can, however, get a “60+ Oyster Card” at age 60. This costs £20 plus £10 annually for each year or part of a year that one is used and lasts until they are eligible for a Freedom Pass.
It is also worth noting that the Freedom Pass provides for more than free travel on buses. It also allows free travel on TfL's trams, Underground and Overground services as well as on most National Rail services within the capital (with a few exceptions such as the Heathrow Express). Holders also get discounted fares (50%) on the Emirates Air Line (that's the cable car across the Thames, not the commercial airline) and Thames Riverbus services.
Londoners do not get free travel at age 60. They qualify for a "Freedom "Pass" when they reach the current women’s State Pension age. They can, however, get a “60+ Oyster Card” at age 60. This costs £20 plus £10 annually for each year or part of a year that one is used and lasts until they are eligible for a Freedom Pass.
It is also worth noting that the Freedom Pass provides for more than free travel on buses. It also allows free travel on TfL's trams, Underground and Overground services as well as on most National Rail services within the capital (with a few exceptions such as the Heathrow Express). Holders also get discounted fares (50%) on the Emirates Air Line (that's the cable car across the Thames, not the commercial airline) and Thames Riverbus services.
The 'North' consists of far more than Manchester.
Whilst Andy Burham has a duty of care to the people of (Greater) Manchester, the remainder of the North-West (Lancashire and Cumbria) excluding Merseyside which has its' own problems, seems to be left without any sort of spokesperson to fight the diktats of Westminster.
Whilst Andy Burham has a duty of care to the people of (Greater) Manchester, the remainder of the North-West (Lancashire and Cumbria) excluding Merseyside which has its' own problems, seems to be left without any sort of spokesperson to fight the diktats of Westminster.
The Manchester Evening News doesn’t usually write anything worth reading, but they have been unusually good on this stand-off. It might be educational for southern ABers to read this...
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//Whilst Andy Burham has a duty of care to the people of (Greater) Manchester, the remainder of the North-West (Lancashire and Cumbria) excluding Merseyside which has its' own problems, seems to be left without any sort of spokesperson to fight the diktats of Westminster.//
Despite having their own elected Mayor, Londoners are just as badly off (if not more so in some respects). Many parts of London (and I'm not talking of individual streets but of some of its largest boroughs) have far lower infection rates than many of the areas they adjoin. Yet London's Mayor is quite upset that London has been placed into Tier 2 - because he would like far harsher measures than that.
Despite having their own elected Mayor, Londoners are just as badly off (if not more so in some respects). Many parts of London (and I'm not talking of individual streets but of some of its largest boroughs) have far lower infection rates than many of the areas they adjoin. Yet London's Mayor is quite upset that London has been placed into Tier 2 - because he would like far harsher measures than that.
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